{Spam?} RE: [SURBL-Discuss] RE: (1) Another Possible FP, and (2) header parsing issues

Justin Mason jm at jmason.org
Sat Aug 14 21:56:15 CEST 2004


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Rik van Riel writes:
> On Sat, 14 Aug 2004, Rob McEwen wrote:
> 
> > Finally, Rik, even if you have to skills to do all this, Joe Wein may be
> > able to do it faster and with less meticulous hand testing due to the
> > extensive tools and knowledge he has developed. It if obvious from his
> > web site that he had successfully dealt with all of these harder issues
> > before.
> 
> One question though, how many GB/day of spamtrap mail is
> Joe Wein able to handle ? ;)
> 
> I may only be getting one GB/day now, but in the long run
> the only scalable solution will be to have the software
> that analyses the spam available to others.
> 
> Eg. it would be interesting to run it on the CBL spamtraps,
> which receive over an order of magnitude more spam than my
> spamtraps here ...
> 
> I'd be more than happy to send my spamtrap mail to Joe Wein
> though, either by nntpsend or by having him pull it from my
> nntp server here.  The only condition would be that the mail
> in question isn't made available to others, since that would
> expose the spamtrap addresses, breaking a promise I made to
> the guy who pointed one of the spamtrap domains at me...

interesting...

It would be nice to define an efficient spamtrap-delivery
system -- possibly not even SMTP or NNTP, just a protocol
where a client (ie the one doing the pull-down) connects
to a port, authenticates, and gets a continual mbox-formatted
stream of messages until it chooses to disconnect.

(After all, in the spamtrap case, you just want the mails
ASAP, not necessarily *all* the mails, just the freshest
ones.   also, "from"/"to" is immaterial because they're
all going to the same destination -- the spamtrap.)

Maybe flooding over NNTP, treating a spamtrap as a USENET
feed, is the way to do it?

- --j.
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