[SURBL-Discuss] cross-pollination with MT-Blacklist?

Chris Santerre csanterre at merchantsoverseas.com
Mon Aug 16 13:45:44 CEST 2004



>-----Original Message-----
>From: jm at jmason.org [mailto:jm at jmason.org]
>Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:15 AM
>To: discuss at lists.surbl.org
>Subject: [SURBL-Discuss] cross-pollination with MT-Blacklist?
>
>
>Hi SURBLers --
>
>has anyone talked to Jay Allen and the MT-Blacklist people?
>
>MT-Blacklist -- http://www.jayallen.org/comment_spam/ -- is a 
>blacklist of
>"bad" URLs (sound familiar? ;).   They have quite a small list from the
>looks of things, but cross-pollination could work both ways; if *they*
>looked up SURBL, or even just looked up a "blog-spam" SURBL sublist,
>that'd be a lot more sensible.
>
>BTW I bet the blog spammers and email spammers are the same 
>people.  (If
>blog spammers are the people who *used* to do referrer 
>spamming, then I'm
>*sure* of it -- see http://taint.org/2003/08/14/040652a.html ).
>
>Also -- some info on that google technique posted here and in
>SpamAssassin-users recently -- read this:
>http://kalsey.com/2004/07/new_comment_spam_technique/
>
>    "It appears the spammers have a new tactic in increasing their
>    PageRank. They find a site that doesn't delete comment 
>spam and fill
>    it with links. Then they boost the PR of that site by 
>spamming it in
>    blog comments. Once the spam-friendly's site has in 
>increased Google
>    ranking, all those spammed links in their comments will 
>get a boost in
>    rank as well."
>
>I'll bet that's it -- working like so:
>
>    1. spammer S sets up payload site
>    2. S spams comment spam everywhere to up its PageRank
>    3. S email-spams with the google search URL
>    4. top hit for that phrase is the payload site.

SARE is currently discussing an eval to catch number 3. Basically a file
containing spam phrases. Eval looks for matches in any given google search
link to those spam terms. All theory right now. But should stop this junk. 

--Chris


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