[SURBL-Discuss] RE: Which rules are replaces by *.surbl.org?

Chris Santerre csanterre at merchantsoverseas.com
Mon Jun 14 18:03:11 CEST 2004

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeff Chan [mailto:jeffc at surbl.org]
>Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 12:28 AM
>To: SpamAssassin Users; SURBL Discuss
>Subject: Re: Which rules are replaces by *.surbl.org?
>On Saturday, June 12, 2004, 7:56:15 PM, ian list) wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Jeff Chan wrote:
>>> In other words the domains from BigEvil and MidEvil that can be
>>> listed without many wildcards go into ws.surbl.org and the
>>> domains that need more wildcards (too many to be practically
>>> enumerated) will end up in BigEvil.cf .
>>> Chris may not be ready to do the latter yet, but the former is
>>> already in place as of a few days ago.  We're watching it all
>>> run for a while before announcing officially.
>> Thanks for info Jeff, one question, for us who rsync the 
>zones off your
>> servers, will the be.surbl.org.bind/be.surbl.org.rbldsnd 
>files disappear ?
>> Does this mean we need to reconfigure our bind/rbldnsd if BE 
>> and transforms back into a .cf ?
>We had lots of difficulty reaching people and getting them
>to stop using sa.surbl.org when we simply wanted to rename that
>list to ws.surbl.org, and that was early on, so I suspect
>be.surbl.org may live on but with essentially no content.  be's
>been around longer so it would be harder to get it out of configs
>out there.  But the useable content from be is now in ws.
>Ideally if folks want every function, they should:
>0.  Use sc.surbl.org
>1.  Use ws.surbl.org (which now has the be.surbl.org domains)
>2.  *Not* use be.surbl.org (which is now redundant)
>3.  Use BigEvil.cf (and perhaps MidEvil.cf also, depending
>on how Chris and Paul work things out.)

Yes, but I want to add that there _WILL_ be a "BigEvil style" cf version of
ws.surbl.org for those people who won't/can't use the SURBL net lookups for
some strange reason. This is still being worked on. One of the main reasons
I haven't updates BE in a while is because I've been working on the new WS
submission stuff. (Thanks to everyone who is involved in that!)

Things should also pickup in the addition of new domains. More _trusted_
sources are being worked on now. We are being really picky, and making
people walk the Gauntlet of Fire! :D

>That said, not every one chooses to use every component.
>The choice is up to them.
>To summarize the changes, the relatively fixed domains from
>be are now in ws, and the heavily wildcarded domains will
>end up only in BigEvil.cf.  So to get the original BigEvil
>functionality one would continue to use BigEvil.cf and add
>ws.surbl.org.  (That would also add the sa-blacklist domains
>for someone who was only using BigEvil before.)

Yeah I will be working on the more dynamic Bigevil.cf soon. I'm trying to
work on another ruleset now that has nothing to do with URLs :)  My eyes
have been getting cross-eyed! 

Chris Santerre 
System Admin and SARE Ninja
'It is not the strongest of the species that survives,
not the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.'
Charles Darwin 

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