[SURBL-Discuss] A question on policy

Chris Santerre csanterre at merchantsoverseas.com
Thu Jun 24 17:37:21 CEST 2004


The thread I had found this in didn't contain the full body. However I
searched and found a copy and sure enough, there is an uptilt.com link. It's
on it's way to SURBL now :)

As always J, Thanks!

--Chris

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>From: jm at jmason.org [mailto:jm at jmason.org]
>Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:16 PM
>To: Jeff Chan; SURBL Discussion list
>Subject: Re: [SURBL-Discuss] A question on policy
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>In terms of the message, does uptilt.com have any links in it?  often
>in this situation they'd have added an "unsubscribe" link of their
>own which SURBL would then catch.
>
>- --j.
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>Jeff Chan writes:
>> On Thursday, June 24, 2004, 9:16:51 AM, Chris Santerre wrote:
>> > But the thread basically says that uptilt.com (a known 
>spam sender) was
>> > hired by tonyrobbins.com to advertise. So they sent out 
>spam. Now my
>> > question is, do we list them? 
>> 
>> > Do we list somewhat legit domains that hire these people 
>without (or maybe
>> > with) the knowledge that they will spam? I'm leaning 
>towards yes, in the
>> > hopes they will learn to choose their advertisers more carefully. 
>> > Thoughts?
>> 
>> The answer I would prefer is to *not* list a mostly legitimate
>> domain like tonyrobbins.com, but to let conventional RBLs list
>> uptilt.com and their IPs as a spam sender.  In other words,
>> let spamhaus list uptilt's addresses and block on them, but
>> don't list tonyrobbins.com in SURBLs since it could potentially
>> be mentioned in legitimate messages.  Of course it would not hurt
>> to let the possibly legitimate company's lawyers know they should
>> not use spammers, and cite the law being broken.
>> 
>> This one seems like a relatively clear division of responsibility
>> to me.  Others may be more or less clear.
>> 
>> Jeff C.
>> 
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