[SURBL-Discuss] Hi I'm new and I like SURBL

Kristopher Austin kristopher.austin at oc.edu
Tue Nov 30 18:41:05 CET 2004

Paul, if you are still interested in greylisting you might consider a
solution that allows you to run SpamAssassin at SMTP time.  I use
sa-exim (I believe there are others for different MTAs) and this allows
me to greylist based on score.  For example, if the score is above 3
points then it is greylisted, otherwise it is immediately let through.

However, I would go with Chris's suggestion first and see if you even
need to bother.  In our situation, we have to be very liberal on the
score to keep the FP's down, so we use greylisting on the uncertainties.


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.surbl.org] On Behalf Of Chris Santerre
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:53 AM
To: 'SURBL Discussion list'
Subject: RE: [SURBL-Discuss] Hi I'm new and I like SURBL

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Schwarz [mailto:Paul.Schwarz at starktruss.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:03 AM
>To: 'SURBL Discussion list'
>Subject: [SURBL-Discuss] Hi I'm new and I like SURBL

Greetings noob, I mean Paul :-)

>what are others thoughts of the effectiveness of SURBL , risks of false
>positives, CPU usage, etc  

SURBL rocks, but I'm a bit partial. The risks of FP are low, and we
to get them to zero. And anything reported as an FP is dealt with right
away, by numerous people. We take them very seriously. 

Lookups are quick and getting quicker with each new mirror added. If you
have a LOT of traffic you can rsync to get lookups local. Directions are
the SURBL.org site. 

>I'm currently doing my spam checking in this order
>sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org  - reject at SMTP level 
>standard greylisting 
>SURBL  - using multi.surbl.org 

I like everything but greylisting. It can have some issues when a timely
email is needed. Particularly with airline info. We've seen it here from
another SURBL contributor. 

>How are you guys doing it and do you have any suggestions ?    
>Low false
>positives are my goal in my setup.   I wondered if surbl should replace
>greylisting or RBL or should just complement. 

Complement is always better, but if anything I would remove greylisting
now. With SURBL I don't think you need it. But if you have the time and
don't mind waiting sometimes 20 minutes for some companies to resend,
go ahead. 

I think you will be very happy with SURBL. 

Chris Santerre 
System Admin and SARE Ninja
'It is not the strongest of the species that survives,
not the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.'
Charles Darwin 
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