[SURBL-Discuss] Proposing a greylist

Chris Santerre csanterre at merchantsoverseas.com
Thu Sep 2 15:08:02 CEST 2004

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rob McEwen [mailto:rob at powerviewsystems.com]
>Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 1:29 PM
>To: SURBL Discussion list
>Subject: Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Proposing a greylist
>> Good idea. Let's do it. I'll be able to submit more domains to *this*
>> list than I could to ws. It will finally give meaning to that pile of
>> domains I always end up with and get ulcers trying to 
>classify as black
>> or white.
>For the record... and just to be sure... I vote that 
>unconfirmed.surbl.org NOT contain those things that we tend to 
>agree with as NOT being spam, but sometimes gets reported as 
>spam by end users.
>For example, people sometimes forget that they really DID 
>subscribe to a particular newsletter, and then complain about 
>it as being spam. The SallyFoster.com site is a great example 
>where a one-time e-mail is sent only at the request of a 
>relative or friend. Another example is a legitimate newsletter 
>with an open-loop signup page where someone signed up their 
>friends or enemies (without their knowledge) for the 
>newsletter.... not good practice, but if it represents a tiny 
>fraction of that newletter's distribution, the newsletter is 
>otherwise totally opt-in, and there are few to none NANAS 
>hits... then this kind of stuff shouldn't get on the greylist.
>Instead, unconfirmed.surbl.org ought to be for those really 
>hard to classify things that ARE getting NANAS hits, that DO 
>hit spamtraps, but that have enough legitimate purposes to not 
>get placed in the regular SURBL lists.
>If this advice is not heeded, then unconfirmed.surbl.org will 
>get too convoluted and too bulky to be effective.
>Rob McEwen

Before reading the other new posts in this thread, I have to say one big
"Hell Yeah!" to this. It's kind of what I meant, and I assumed everyone
thought the same. I shouldn't have done that. 

Yes anyone added to an unclasified MUST be VERY spammy! and have legit hits.
I'm not talking about someone who may have purchased a bad list, or got
screwed by a marketer one time. an unclasified domain still has to hit
everything that would put it on a blacklist.

--Chris (Une Rafale De Tubes!)

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