[SURBL-Discuss] Draw the line (was: Need help checking FP lis t from Theo)

Jeff Chan jeffc at surbl.org
Fri Sep 10 01:38:14 CEST 2004

On Thursday, September 9, 2004, 6:17:24 AM, Chris Santerre wrote:

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jeff Chan [mailto:jeffc at surbl.org]
>>Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 3:46 AM
>>To: SURBL Discussion list
>>Subject: Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Draw the line (was: Need help checking FP
>>list from Theo)
>>On Wednesday, September 8, 2004, 2:08:08 PM, SM wrote:
>>> Hi Chris,
>>> At 08:09 08-09-2004, Chris Santerre wrote:
>>>>NO it doesn't! The point was..... its interesting!! :)  
>>123inkjets has been
>>>>linked to a ton of other spam domains. The fact that they 
>>have customers
>>>>makes it legit???? SO anyone who falls for these spams and 
>>buys something,
>>>>makes it legit? Think about that. Where do you draw the line?
>>> If a few legitimate customers are enough to get a domain off 
>>a blacklist, 
>>> then most of the domains currently listed will sooner or later get 
>>> off.  There will always be false positives because one man's spam is 
>>> another man's ham.  Someone should draw the line somewhere.
>>Yes, we have drawn a line.  A domain that's mostly used in
>>spam will probably get listed.  A domain that's only being
>>used in spam will definitely get listed.  A domain that's
>>mostly used in legitimate messages probably won't get
>>listed.  A domain that's only used in legitimate messages
>>definitely won't get listed.

> So what does that mean for 123inkjets? If I understand you correcly, your
> are whitelisting this spammer because a legit newsletter happens to have
> links to them in it. Be it either an ad or whatever. 

In this case, yes.   123inkjets appears in many legitimate
newsletters.  Should we block all those newsletters?

> So instead of the newsletter breaking ties with the spammer, the spammer
> domain gets a free ride?

No, complain to the newsletters.  Maybe they know something we

Jeff C.

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