[SURBL-Discuss] Additional PJ info

Alex Broens surbl at alexb.ch
Sun Sep 19 14:10:28 CEST 2004

Jeff Chan wrote:
> Here's a little more history about the processing Prolocation
> and Joe Wein are doing.  Raymond is running copies of Joe's
> engine on three servers at his site.  Each server being fed
> about 100k likely spams per day from multiple spamtraps and
> the abuse department of the ISP Raymond works at.  This has
> created a very large increase in the amount of data that Joe
> sees in addition to his own systems and traps.
> Prolocation's JW-processed messages are also fed into
> Joe's systems so that there is a consistent record as
> "evidence" of the spams.  But the extracted URI data of
> both Joe and Raymond are combined at Prolocation before
> they get fed into WS.  It's that combined data, all
> processed with Joe's engine (but at two different locations,
> Joe's and Raymond's) that we are thinking about breaking out
> into its own list (at least within multi).
> I was unaware of the scale of things on Raymond's side,
> and they are significant upgrade to the capabilities of
> Joe's systems, in terms of spam volume, servers, people,
> etc.
> The Prolocation and Joe Wein collaboration is also
> consistent since the same engine and standards are being
> applied to some large, independent sources of spam.
> All of this leads me to think that the Prolocation and
> JW data are really a major operation of their own and
> deserve to have their own list.
> By the way I'm proposing to call the list JP instead of
> PJ, since PJ is too similar to PH.  The difference should
> result in less confusion.
> Comments?

Just curious: how long does it then take from the moment a msg shows up 
and its recognized as spam till its available to "the public" in 
whichever zone?


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