[SURBL-Discuss] avsMUNGED-gold.com

Lindsay Snider lindsay at pa.net
Thu Apr 14 17:09:20 CEST 2005


> >
> > They seem to be hosted on dtag.de, which is not a usual haven for
> > spammers.  Their servers are not on SBL or common RBLs.  No
> > NANAS.  2002 registration:
> >
> >    Domain Name: AVS-GOLD.COM
> >    Registrar: DEUTSCHE TELEKOM AG
> >    Whois Server: whois.registrar.telekom.de
> >    Referral URL: http://www.registrar.telekom.de
> >    Name Server: PNS.DTAG.DE
> >    Name Server: SECONDARY000.DTAG.NET
> >    Status: ACTIVE
> >    Updated Date: 06-aug-2004
> >    Creation Date: 05-aug-2002
> >    Expiration Date: 05-aug-2005
> >
> > Doesn't look like a typical blackhat spammer.
>
> Note that I'm not saying they're not spammers, just that it's not
> a typical host for spammers.
>
> Also since they're in Germany on the German phone company's
> network it's possible that reporting abuse to them *may* have
> more success than say reporting abuse to Korea.
>
> Lindsay,

Hello!   Sorry for the slow response, I was away yesterday.

> Have you tried complaining to:
>
> % whois -h whois.abuse.net DTAG.DE
> abuse at t-ipnet.de (for dtag.de)
> sls.dk-cc at telekom.de (for dtag.de)

I reported it to abuse at nic.telekom.de the owner of the ip 62.157.174.118 I 
received the email from.  After seeing this email, I also reported it to the 
two addresses you suggested.

>
> If so, what did they say?

sls.dk-cc at telekom.de was accepted and then bounced by an exchange server.  No 
word back yet from abuse at nic.telekom.de or abuse at t-ipnet.de 

>
> Jeff C.
> --
> "If it appears in hams, then don't list it."
>
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