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[SURBL-Announce] Administrivia: announce replies go to discuss, discuss replies go to list
by Jeff Chan 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

We've changed the list settings slightly to direct replies to this announcement list to go to the discussion list, and for replies on the discussion list to go to the list by default rather than to the poster. discuss(a)lists.surbl.org Hope that's ok with everyone. Please reply off list if it's not. :-) Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:jeffc@surbl.org http://www.surbl.org/

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SURBL Implemetation Guidelines
by Jeff Chan 20 Apr '04

20 Apr '04

We're made a document describing some of the general properties which code using SURBLs should have in order to use the data as it was designed and intended. We hope these comments may be useful to developers. Our Implementation Guidelines are brief and copied below. http://www.surbl.org/implementation.html Implementation Guidelines Here are some very brief guidelines for folks writing software to use SURBL lists. Your code should: 1. Extract URIs from message bodies. (Extraction of URIs from message bodies should ideally include full resolution of redirections into the final target domain name. This can be a non-trivial problem.) 2. Extract base (registrar) domains from those URIs. This includes removing any and all leading host names, subdomains, www., randomized subdomains, etc. In order to determine the base domain it may be necessary to use a table of country code TLDs (ccTLDs) such as the partially-imcomplete one SURBL uses. 3. Not do name resolution on the domains. 4. Look up the domain name in the SURBL by prepending it to the name of the SURBL, e.g., domainundertest.com.sc.surbl.org, then doing Address record DNS resolution on the resulting combined name. A non-result indicates lack of inclusion in the list. A result of 127.0.0.2 represents inclusion, i.e., probable spam. 5. Handle numeric IPs in URIs similarly, but reverse the octet ordering before comparison against the RBL. This is standard practice for RBLs. For example, http://1.2.3.4/ is checked as 4.3.2.1.sc.surbl.org. SURBL lists unusually have both names and numbers in the same list. For example, 2.0.0.127 and test.surbl.org and similar actual spam domains and addresses are both in all SURBL lists. Numbered addresses in SURBLs should have occurred in spams as numbers, e.g.: literally http://1.2.3.4/. Additional SURBL test points are mentioned in the News & Notes section. __ Please send me any comments, updates, revisions, corrections, questions, etc... Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:jeffc@surbl.org http://www.surbl.org/

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[SURBL-Announce] SURBL web site updated, Letter to Redirectors added
by Jeff Chan 19 Apr '04

19 Apr '04

I've udpated the SURBL web site to use frames and have freshened the content slightly. Please let me know if you spot any broken links, etc. http://www.surbl.org/ Also added "An Open Letter To Operators Of Redirection Sites" in which we try to appeal to redirection sites to deny their services to spam URI domains (e.g., spammers' web sites). Redirection sites may become an increasing problem if we're successful in blocking spams with their sites directly linked. http://www.surbl.org/redirect.html Comments, revisions, questions, suggestions on any of that are welcomed. Cheers, Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:jeffc@surbl.org http://www.surbl.org/

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[SURBL-Announce] Bill Stearns' sa-blacklist available as SURBL: ws.surbl.org
by Jeff Chan 17 Apr '04

17 Apr '04

I probably should have introduced this second SURBL list that can be used together with or in place of sc.surbl.org before mentioning that its name was changing from sa.surbl.org to ws.surbl.org. :-) Note that the two lists have different data sources, so strictly speaking one is not a replacement for the other. They're two different lists. sc uses URI domains from SpamCop reports. The data source for ws data is described below. Both lists have merits and we'd encourage you to consider trying both. Here's an announcement with the additional update that we've changed the *sample rule names* for the ws list to use "WS" instead of "SA": __ http://www.surbl.org/ (with some live links) More SURBL lists In addition to the first SpamCop URI-derived SURBL sc.surbl.org, we are pleased to host another RBL compatible with the SpamCopURI or URIDNSBL SpamAssassin plugins, or any other software that can check message body domains against a name-based RBL. Data for the second SURBL ws.surbl.org comes from the domains in Bill Stearns' SpamAssassin blacklist: sa-blacklist. This is a large list of spam domains, including those found in spam message body URIs. Both ws.surbl.org and sc.surbl.org SURBLs can be used in the same SA installation by using two sets of rules. An SA 2.63 rule and score using SpamCopURI (but not the SpamCop data!) looks like this: uri WS_URI_RBL eval:check_spamcop_uri_rbl('ws.surbl.org','127.0.0.2') describe WS_URI_RBL URI's domain appears in spamcop database at ws.surbl.org tflags WS_URI_RBL net score WS_URI_RBL 3.0 An SA 3.0 rule and score using URIBL's urirhsbl looks like this: urirhsbl URIBL_WS_SURBL ws.surbl.org. A header URIBL_WS_SURBL eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_WS_SURBL') describe URIBL_WS_SURBL Contains a URL listed in the WS SURBL blocklist tflags URIBL_WS_SURBL net score URIBL_WS_SURBL 3.0 More details about ws.surbl.org are available in the section "Additional SURBLs for spam URI testing" (copied below). Please note that the name of this list is being changed from sa.surbl.org to ws.surbl.org. If you were using the old name in your rules please update them to the new name. ... Additional SURBLs for spam URI testing Additional SURBLs that list domains occurring in spam message bodies may be used with the same routines that use the sc.surbl.org RBL. sa-blacklist available as RBL: ws.surbl.org In cooperation with Bill Stearns, SURBL is making his sa-blacklist SpamAssassin blacklist available as the RBL ws.surbl.org. It can be used in the same way as sc.surbl.org, for example by adding urirhsbl and SpamCopURI rules as described in the Quick Start section at the top of this document. Like sc, ws.surbl.org is available through DNS and, for large-volume mail servers, as rsynced BIND and rbldns zone files. Raymond Dijkxhoorn has graciously agreed to host the ws.surbl.org zone files from his rsync server along with sc.surbl.org's. Please contact him at rsync(a)surbl.org for rsync access. Both sc and ws RBLs can be used in the same installation. The choice of using either or both or none is yours. Their data differs somewhat, and we'll try to briefly describe and link some of the differences here. Bill's list is rather large at about 9600 domains. It consists of domains found in spam message body URIs and some spam sender and spam operator domains. Given that the former are more relevant to isolate these days, most of the recent additions to Bill's list have been URI domains. Those are also the domains most relevant for use with the message body checking approach which we propose throughout this site. The data in sa-blacklist and therefore ws.surbl.org differ from the SpamCop URI report data described above in that the list is about ten times larger, more stable, and may have a slightly higher false positive rate. Bill's policy for inclusion and cleaning of the sa-blacklist is quite sound, however, so folks should feel comfortable giving this list a try in addition to the sc list. ws may currently detect some spam that sc misses, and vice versa, but it's worth mentioning that the current sc is a working prototype and that we expect the performance of sc to improve as we tune the sc data engine further. sc just got out of the gate, yet it already has some worthy competition in ws. Thanks Bill! Because ws is larger and more stable, the zone files for it gets a six hour TTL compared to 10 minutes for sc. Due to the differences between the time scales, sizes, and data sources of ws and sc, we probably won't be offering a combined ws plus sc list. For example it would be difficult to say what TTL a merged list should get, and you probably would not want a megabyte plus BIND zone file refreshing every 10 minutes. For those using rsynced zone files that would probably not be an issue, but for those using BIND, the DNS traffic quite well could be. We encourage you to give ws.surbl.org a try. Please note that the name of this list is being changed from sa.surbl.org to ws.surbl.org. If you were using the old name in your rules please update them to the new name. Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:jeffc@surbl.org http://www.surbl.org/

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Whitelisting log added
by Jeff Chan 15 Apr '04

15 Apr '04

Given the probable need to improve whitelisting, I've added a log of domains that would go onto sc.surbl.org but are then prevented from getting onto the list by the whitelist(s): http://www.surbl.org/whitelist-hits.new.log That goes along with the log of new additions to sc.surbl.org, i.e., essentially a blacklisting log: http://www.surbl.org/top-sites-domains.new.log I've also grabbed copy of 500 popular web site domains for addition to the whitelist. A couple of the recent whitelist hits have been from it. So far they seem reasonable. Whitelisting will continue in the next version of the engine, hopefully with some larger data sets. Blacklisting based on SpamCop URI domain data will hopefully be more stable and broader in the next version also. In other words, there should be significantly less activity on the blacklist log since the list itself will be more stable. (For example under the current system you may see some domains that come off the list then get back on it.... Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain... :-) There should be a lot less of that.) Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:jeffc@surbl.org http://www.surbl.org/

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[SURBL-Announce] Like sc.surbl.org, ws.surbl.org works with any SURBL-compatible programs
by Jeff Chan 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

A question about whether SpamCopURI would support using the alternative SURBL ws.surbl.org came up, so I thought I'd address that for everyone. Any program that knows how to extract URIs from message bodies, then domains from the URIs, then compare those domains against an RBL can use any or all of the SURBL lists. Therefore SpamCopURI will work with ws.surbl.org just fine. (Noting of course that the ws results won't necessarily be related to the SpamCop-derived data in the sc list.) All you need to do is add a rule with the name of that list: uri SA_URI_RBL eval:check_spamcop_uri_rbl('ws.surbl.org','127.0.0.2') describe SA_URI_RBL URI's domain appears in spamcop database at ws.surbl.org tflags SA_URI_RBL net score SA_URI_RBL 3.0 (Likewise in SpamAssassin 3.0 with urirhsbl:) urirhsbl URIBL_SA_SURBL ws.surbl.org. A header URIBL_SA_SURBL eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_SA_SURBL') describe URIBL_SA_SURBL Contains a URL listed in the SA SURBL blocklist tflags URIBL_SA_SURBL net score URIBL_SA_SURBL 3.0 You can run either SURBL or both if you like. Note that ws has a higher spam detection rate (currently) but also a somewhat higher false positive rate than sc. Here's a corpus check Dan Quinlan ran: OVERALL% SPAM% HAM% S/O RANK SCORE NAME 11189 1200 9989 0.107 0.00 0.00 (all messages) 100.000 10.7248 89.2752 0.107 0.00 0.00 (all messages as %) 6.095 56.2500 0.0701 0.999 1.00 1.00 URIBL_SC_SURBL 6.855 59.7500 0.5006 0.992 0.98 1.00 URIBL_SBL 9.545 72.8333 1.9421 0.974 0.95 0.01 T_URIBL_SA_SURBL 0.116 0.5000 0.0701 0.877 0.58 0.01 T_URIBL_DSBL SA_SURBL above reflects the old name for ws; SC_SURBL is sc.surbl.org. ws detected ~73% of spams in the spam corpus with a ~1.9% FP rate in the ham corups. sc detected ~56% with a <0.1% FP rate. We're still tuning how the SpamCop data is used, so the sc hit rates should improve and FPs decrease hopefully in the next version of the sc data engine. Cheers, Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:jeffc@surbl.org http://www.jeffchan.com/

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Name of sa.surbl.org being changed to ws.surbl.org
by Jeff Chan 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

Hello SURBL users, Please note that the name of the SURBL derived from Bill Stearns' sa-blacklist is being changed from sa.surbl.org to ws.surbl.org . If you were using the old name in your rules or configs please update them to the new name. We will keep DNS queries up on the old name for a week or so but will probably drop them after that. This is only a name change for that list. Functionality should remain the same. Cheers, Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:jeffc@surbl.org http://www.jeffchan.com/

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MTA qpsmtpd URIBL plugin for use with SURBL
by Jeff Chan 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

Devin Carraway has written a plugin for the Perl-based MTA qpsmtpd to compare domains from message body URIs to SURBL domain lists. Here's his announcement of what I believe is the first MTA use of SURBL. Congrats and thanks to Devin! __ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 02:07:15 -0700 From: Devin Carraway <qpsmtpd(a)devin.com> Subject: qpsmtpd plugin Saw today's slashdot article on SURBL -- glad to see someone's taken up the idea. I had thought of something similar, but somehow hadn't connected it with "oh yeah, they're already hostnames, make a DNSBL out of it." You commented that it'd be nice to see support for it in MTAs, so I wrote a plugin for qpsmtpd to do it. Qpsmtpd, if you haven't encountered it, is a replacement smtpd for qmail and postfix, with a primary emphasis on detecting and declining spam during the initial SMTP transaction. http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.qpsmtpd/1216 http://devin.com/qpsmtpd/uribl -- Jeff Chan mailto:jeffc@surbl.org-nospam http://www.surbl.org/

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[SURBL-Announce] SpamCop spamvertised sites page currently not serving data
by Jeff Chan 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

SpamCop's Spamvertised sites page is up but not currently serving data. I've take this opportunity to make sure that the SURBL engine does the right thing when there's no new data coming in. When that happens the sc.surbl.org list stays unchanged except for domains that may come off the list due to expiration of old reports. Once the data feed is up again, sc.surbl.org should pick up where it left off and things should continue to operate normally. As an aside, the next version of the data engine will have a much longer memory, especially of spam domains and IP addresses so there won't be nearly as much churn in the domains. There will also be more domains on the list. Cheers, Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:jeffc@surbl.org http://www.surbl.org/

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example.com testpoints added
by Jeff Chan 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

At Roger Marquis' (RAM) suggestion we have added example.com testpoints to the RBLs: Name: example.com.sc.surbl.org Address: 127.0.0.2 Also added the name of the zone to the text of the testpoints: example.com.sc.surbl.org text = "sc.surbl.org permanent test point" Cheers, Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:jeffc@surbl.org http://www.surbl.org/

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