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FP on WS
by Bill Landry 14 Sep '04

14 Sep '04

Found orchardbank-MUNGED-.com is listed on WS. Probably doesn't need much justification for removal, but the domain was registered on May 30, 1997. Found two old NANAS listing, one from 11/02 and one from 2/03. Bill

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OFF-TOPIC: CBS Forgery Scam
by Rob McEwen 14 Sep '04

14 Sep '04

OFF-TOPIC: CBS Forgery Scam (forgive me Jeff) I've studied this thoroughly. I can say 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is a forgery propagated by CBS. Has anyone been following this? Does anyone doubt what I just said? Rob McEwen

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ns15.surbl.org is down
by Jeff Chan 13 Sep '04

13 Sep '04

Bjorn Jensen let me know that ns15 is down with a hardware failure and probably won't be back up until Monday. I have temporarily substituted ns16's IP address for it and commented it out of the "k" name server round robin. DNS should be operating normally as a result. Jeff C.

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Probable FPs
by Ryan Thompson 13 Sep '04

13 Sep '04

I found the following domains listed in a ~20K ham corpus from the last couple of days: Domain Age in Days Score (#msgs) attac.biz 826 -3.3333 (1) blah.com 3462 -3.3333 (1) chartshop.com 2275 -3.3333 (1) publicaster.com 965 -3.3333 (1) resortvacationstogo.com 1849 -3.3333 (1) send4fun.com 1681 -30.0000 (1) surveymonkey.com 1770 -3.3333 (4) topcities.com 1926 -2.5000 (1) whtirc.com 246 -3.2491 (1) whtradio.com 196 -2.3630 (1) Full GetURI output: http://ry.ca/geturi/runs/20040910-fps.html Quick look: attac.biz Looks real fishy, but appeared in some travel newsletter. Related to eturbonews.com. Maybe de-list, but don't whitelist. blah.com This was in a ProFTPd mailing list message "how do I set up a virtual host for "blah.com". chartshop.com Astrology.com newsletter. People really do sign up for those things. surveymonkey.com AFAICT, mostly legit surveys send4fun.com Jokes, example was person to person links topcities.com Free subdomain host. whtirc.com, whtradio.com Web Hosting Talk newsletter. Yes, it's legit. publicaster.com Used in some legit newsletters/mass media resortvacationstogo.com Looks mostly legit, and they've been around for 1800+ days without any NANAS hits at all. Related to vacationstogo.com. With the exception of attac.biz, I'd say whitelist the lot of these, unless anyone knows some reason why not. :-) The *real* cool part is GetURI (devel version) actually processed all of these messages in one run, producing ~4MB of output. Mozilla, on the other hand, crashed rather unceremoniously. Be thankful I re-ran on only the messages that generated the FPs. :-) Also, if someone wants to go through the *other* domains (i.e., those on a grey (not blue) background), there are probably quite a few other whitelist candidates there. (gc.ca, for instance :-) - Ryan -- Ryan Thompson <ryan(a)sasknow.com> SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com 901-1st Avenue North - Saskatoon, SK - S7K 1Y4 Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-244-7037 Saskatoon Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America

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FP in OB & WS?
by Bill Landry 13 Sep '04

13 Sep '04

The link below was included in an e-mail announcing the Seattle Career Fair by National Career Fairs (http://www.nationalcareerfairs.com/). I found no NANAS listing for this domain. http://www.ncfmail1-MUNGED-.com/lt/t_go.php?i=429&e=aGVhdGhlcnJAdmFsbGV5aW5… This link redirects to a registration page on the National Career Fairs web site. Bill

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No SURBL hits on issip iadb
by Jeff Chan 12 Sep '04

12 Sep '04

I checked all the SURBL blocklist records against iadb and got no hits. http://www.isipp.com/iadb.php (This is with checking domains against iddb, then taking the IP addresses resolved by iddb and checking those against iadb.) http://spamcheck.freeapp.net/iadb-check Against the entire whitelist (but excluding the .us geographic parent domains), I got one hit: > thisistrue.com: 127.0.0.2 > thisistrue.com: 127.0.1.255 > thisistrue.com: 127.3.100.10 > thisistrue.com: 127.0.0.1 Due to the low hit rates iadb may not be useful for us yet in checking for fps. Perhaps when it has more records, it will be. Or perhaps there isn't much overlap between our spammers, our whitelists and iadb, which is also a reasonable answer. Jeff C.

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Software spam with recently registered (fake?) sender domains
by Joe Wein 12 Sep '04

12 Sep '04

In recent days I've seen a lot of pirate software advertised in spam that uses a sender address of the form "Firstname1 Lastname1" Firstname2Lastname2@suspectdomain where suspectdomain is a very recently registered domain (late August-early September). Previously software spammers used all kinds of fake sender domains, but non they had registered themselves and not specifically recently registered ones. Has anyone else noticed this and has any thoughts about it? I wonder if spammers are buying lists of recently registered domain names off registrars in order to poison domain blacklists? Joe -- http://www.joewein.de/sw/jwSpamSpy/

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important reduce wrise renkles & skin spots (fwd)
by Raymond Dijkxhoorn 11 Sep '04

11 Sep '04

Hi! Our favorite pill spammers also try to get around SURBL now. I dont want to end up making SA rulesets for this, any suggestions ? ns3.airmaramba.biz ns3.avk29.biz The same crap... But, with less SA hits now, since its not touched by SURBL. Bah. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 01:50:29 +0100 From: kenneth clakley <auroraschorn(a)rfc.every1.net> To: wilfredo moote <reyes(a)prolocation.net> Subject: important reduce wrise renkles & skin spots suc-oneonta sony-steo lettery >From inside to outside, from w^eig_ht l`o^ss to skin care. From mental relief to physical relief, from antidepressant to muscle relaxant. The care inside out. you can copy wjq.s.adjuster6370pinn.com/56/ to your browser Licks his lips. And then his greed gets the better of him and penetr'a_te13 wlozyly 05 revolutionibuswdrazaniem wypocin

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Re: [SURBL-Zones] Lowering TTLs
by Jeff Chan 11 Sep '04

11 Sep '04

On Friday, August 20, 2004, 9:24:10 AM, Mike Atkinson wrote: > On 8/19/2004 at 4:20 PM, Jeff Chan wrote: >> Does anyone mind if we try this out and see what effect it has >> on traffic? > Go for it! OK I'm changing the TTLs on all tue SURBL lists to 25 minutes which is a midway point between the 20 minutes I was going to try for SC and the 30 minutes we proposed for the rest of the lists. 25 minutes is also a good sampling frequency to capture data that has a 1 hour characteristic frequency. This is mainly an experiment to see what effect it has on DNS traffic. If the traffic on SC is not a lot lower, I'll change it back to 10 minutes. If the traffic on the other lists is not a lot higher, I'll leave it at 25 minutes. Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:jeffc@surbl.org http://www.surbl.org/

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RE: Start an IP list to block?
by Chris Santerre 11 Sep '04

11 Sep '04

>-----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Chan [mailto:jeffc@surbl.org] >Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:44 PM >To: Jeff Chan >Cc: Pete McNeil; SURBL Discussion list; Spamassassin-Talk >Subject: Re: Start an IP list to block? > > >On Thursday, September 9, 2004, 5:34:05 PM, Jeff Chan wrote: >> My first pass at cleaning the resolved IP data would be to take >> the to 70th percentile of IP addresses and only use those to >> check domain resolved IPs to. It's not perfect, but it should >> cut down on the uncertainty. > >I should add that this mostly applies to data where we have a >constant feed of actual spam reports such as from SpamCop. It >does not apply as strongly to data sources where we only have a >unitary list of domains, for example where each domain appears >once over the whole list. Though even there, it applies weakly, >for example a dozen domains that all resolve to the same network >probably could be used to bias future domains appearing in the >same network towards list inclusion. > >But when you have a stream of reports about the *same domain*, >then you can get better statistics about that domain or it's >resolved IP. There simply more data to work with in more >meaningful ways. > Holy confusion! I can't tell where you are on this subject now Jeff :) Are you saying , that if we get really good data like what was in my original post, and we keep the data in the 90th percentile area, then we might possibly be able to list the IP hosts and have SURBL check against it? If so..I'm up for that. Granted it would take a little more research then just a domain listing, but I think the benefits are very good. Especially if we keep it only high ranking IP offenders. I mean, we may add less then 50 IPs a year? Just the really nasty spammers. Anyway, its been a great discussion. If we've learned anything in the last 24 hours, its that the Patriots defense needs some work against the run game ;) --Chris (Go Tom Brady!)

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