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Re: [SURBL-Discuss] LInk to add to SURBL
by List Mail User 20 May '05

20 May '05

>... >> 220 max.madplus.com ESMTP Merak 7.4.5; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:11:27 -0400 >> quit > >> Same registrant also owns gmbdream. com and uses the company name >> of "GMB Direct". > >Thanks Paul. Does any of this help inform us about how spammy >this critter is? > >Jeff C. >-- >Don't harm innocent bystanders. > >... There is the quick results from a Goggle search which shows that "GMB Direct" runs a group of "… [View More]email marketeering" companies/domains/sites which vary in published policies. A short list (just from the first few Google hits) include: **** First a few "general" hits **** Email Results: Permission Email Marketing Resources for Advertisers www.emailresults.com/directory_ category.asp?CategoryID=4027 GMBDirect - Contact us www.gmbdirect.com/en/contacts/ GMBDirect - About opt-in marketing www.gmbdirect.com/en/marketing/ **** The first "really suspicious one" **** ... Bulk direct e-mail marketing services available through our partners GMB Direct. ... +Direct E-mail Marketing with our partners at GMB Direct. ... www.flashcap.com/Main%20Site/ Services/Params/menu/100/default.aspx **** Some "clear" slime **** Sweeps-US.com - About Us ... COM is one of the family of Web sites owned and operated by GMB DIRECT. Founded in 1998, GMB DIRECT is a leader within the online marketing industry. ... sweeps-us.com/aboutus/ **** Uh-Oh - an "affiliate" program **** Welcome to GMBDirect Affiliate Network ... 1-877-GMB-DIRECT. 1-877-462-3473. info(a)gmbtrack.com. Member Log In. Username :. Password :. Publisher, Advertiser ... gmbtrack.com/ **** Now more slime **** Sweeps-US.com - About Us ... COM is one of the family of Web sites owned and operated by GMB DIRECT. Founded in 1998, GMB DIRECT is a leader within the online marketing industry. ... sweeps-us.com/aboutus/ **** Buy "opt-in" mailing lists **** Optin Email Directory Directory - Business directory, Business to ... ... Email Marketing - National, Click to visit! GMB Direct. www.gmbdirect.com. New York, New York. 877 GMB Direct. Click to visit! Targetware. www.targetware.com. ... www.optinemaildirectory.com/s.asp?d=1478 **** Finally the "give-away" - true "slime" - the privacy page from a Russian site they run (read the find print) **** E-Get - Privacy policy Privacy policy Last Updated: March 12, 2004. GMB Direct ("GMB Direct," "we," "us," "our") has created this site (the "Site") in order to advise you of GMB ... www.vme.net.ru/Privacy/ Against them; Their contract specifically states they are not responsible for the "correctness" of the lists. They will "rent" or "sell" email address lists. They will willingly transfer data gathered from one client to any other paying client (read the "privacy" statement). They have an extremely large number of domains, many hidden with private registrations. In their defense; They are very expensive compared to many spammers. They claim some large companies as customers. --- Thats it. They make it seem like they are legit, but they offer to use any customer provided list to email to (with no mention about "checking"). So clearly they are in the "spam support" business but may have some legitimate customers; Also, many of there domains are "hidden" with private registrations and their seem to fall into three categories - the ones that say they are GMB and are trying to sell services, the ones that say they are GMB but are for gathering personal information using questionable "sweepstakes" (e.g. Win a {TV, Gift Certificate, Sony VAIO, etc}) and other tatics, and finally the ones which do not identify themselves at all. The mere existence if the third group makes them slime (as does the second) and probably make them spammers for themselves as well as for customers (this wouldn't stand up in court, but probably would for a Grand Jury - You can decide where the decision should fall). So the question of "how spammy" is still open, but "are they spammers" is answered (i.e. you may want to list some domains, but not others). Paul Shupak track(a)plectere.com [View Less]

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Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Reporting phishing-spams?
by Joe Zitnik 19 May '05

19 May '05

Usually to the organization that is being misrepresented is a good place to start. I know there are addresses set up just for this with some companies, spoof(a)paypal.com and spoof(a)ebay.com come to mind. They might not actually do anything, but they are there. :-( >>> martin.lyberg(a)idkommunikation.com 5/19/2005 4:03 AM >>> Where is the best place to report phishing-spam? Thanks / Martin _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss(a)… [View More]

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Re: [SURBL-Discuss] LInk to add to SURBL
by List Mail User 19 May '05

19 May '05

... > >spam link. > >http://www.kexmt.move.fresh-deals.net/go/g/31/2869/1/?3495564 > >Dan Zachary > >_______________________________________________ >Discuss mailing list >Discuss(a)lists.surbl.org >http://lists.surbl.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > Despite hiding behind a "private registration": % nslookup -type=any fresh-deals.net ns1.fresh-deals.net Server: ns1.fresh-deals.net Address: 206.131.233.2#53 fresh-deals.net origin = ns1.fresh-deals.… [View More]

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Re: [SURBL-Discuss] LInk to add to SURBL
by List Mail User 18 May '05

18 May '05

>... > >On Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 6:44:05 AM, Spam Admin wrote: >> spam link. > >> http://www.kexmt.move.fresh-deals.net/go/g/31/2869/1/?3495564 > >> Dan Zachary > >Hi Dan, >This is a recently registered domain (a couple weeks ago) >but it doesn't seem to resolve into spaces that are known >to be spammy. That may just mean spammers have moved into >a new network space, etc. > >However there are a number of odd things about this domain … [View More]>from the registration, to the host's registration, etc. >And it doesn't seem to resolve currently. > >Is anyone else seeing this in spams? > >Jeff C. >-- >Don't harm innocent bystanders. > >_______________________________________________ >Discuss mailing list >Discuss(a)lists.surbl.org >http://lists.surbl.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > The actual registrant is below - have to do better to hide behind a "private registration". % jwhois madplus.com [Querying whois.internic.net] [Redirected to whois.enom.com] [Querying whois.enom.com] [whois.enom.com] Registration Service Provided By: Contact: abuse-ns(a)gmbdream.com Visit: Domain name: madplus.com Administrative Contact: Paul Davis (abuse-ns(a)gmbdream.com) +1.6465363193 Fax: +1.- 60 E 42 Street Suite 449 NewYork, NY 10165 US Billing Contact: Paul Davis (abuse-ns(a)gmbdream.com) +1.6465363193 Fax: +1.- 60 E 42 Street Suite 449 NewYork, NY 10165 US Technical Contact: Paul Davis (abuse-ns(a)gmbdream.com) +1.6465363193 Fax: +1.- 60 E 42 Street Suite 449 NewYork, NY 10165 US Registrant Contact: Paul Davis (abuse-ns(a)gmbdream.com) +1.6465363193 Fax: +1.- 60 E 42 Street Suite 449 NewYork, NY 10165 US Status: Active Name Servers: ns1.madplus.com ns2.madplus.com Creation date: 15 Mar 2005 07:56:39 Expiration date: 15 Mar 2006 07:56:39 The data in this whois database is provided to you for information purposes only, that is, to assist you in obtaining information about or related to a domain name registration record. We make this information available "as is," and do not guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a whois query, you agree that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data to: (1) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that stress or load this whois database system providing you this information; or (2) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via direct mail, electronic mail, or by telephone. The compilation, repackaging, dissemination or other use of this data is expressly prohibited without prior written consent from us. The registrar of record is eNom. We reserve the right to modify these terms at any time. By submitting this query, you agree to abide by these terms. Version 6.3 4/3/2002 Paul Shupak track(a)plectere.com [View Less]

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Re: [SURBL-Discuss] LInk to add to SURBL
by List Mail User 18 May '05

18 May '05

>From discuss-bounces(a)lists.surbl.org Wed May 18 06:57:18 2005 X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 09:44:05 -0400 From: Spam Admin <spam_admin(a)sil.org> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SURBL Discussion list <discuss(a)lists.surbl.org> References: <00ad01c55ba8$75db8040$cc0a0a0a(a)thoughtworthy.internal> <428B41AB.7060701(a)sil.org> In-Reply-To: <… [View More]

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Re: [SPAM-TAG] [SURBL-Discuss] Would SURBL block Yahoo, redirect? (Jeff Chan)
by J. Fowler 17 May '05

17 May '05

> So it checks yahoo.com and thelumbercartel.com . I'm certainly not suggesting thelubercartel.com was spamming. Just wanted to make that clear. The actual spam seen came from: http://google.com.s1gns.net/mortgage.asp And thanks. My concern was for the applications such as SA catching long urls. Jay

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Would SURBL block Yahoo redirect?
by J. Fowler 17 May '05

17 May '05

Hello, Is this something Yahoo should be concerned with? Would SURBL lists flag spam if the leading url was yahoo? http://rds.yahoo.com/*-http://www.thelumbercartel.com/ I caught a few spams using yahoo to disguise their URL. saw somthing like this: http://rds.yahoo.com/S=1/K=r/v=3/e=0/t=0/i=1/r=1/*-http://google.com.s1gns.… Just curious what you guys thought.

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Re: MORE (was: Re: [SURBL-Discuss] yet another joe job)
by List Mail User 17 May '05

17 May '05

>... >> All DNS provided by: >> >> nserver: ns1.dnsm.net 218.7.120.70 >> nserver: ns2.dnsm.net 218.7.120.70 >> >> And all domains registered to: >> >> owner: Roelf Van der Brug >> email: admin(a)taiwanmedialtd.com >> address: Singel 2 >> address: Jordaan >> city: Amsterdam >> state: -- >> postal-code: 1015JT >> country: NL >> phone: +31 … [View More]

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RE: [SURBL-Discuss] yet another joe job
by Chris Santerre 17 May '05

17 May '05

>-----Original Message----- >From: Steven Champeon [mailto:schampeo@hesketh.com] >Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 11:32 AM >To: discuss(a)lists.surbl.org >Subject: [SURBL-Discuss] yet another joe job > > > >Please list the following domains: > >dnbfbsqs.com SPAMMER >ghtnsecn.com SPAMMER >rumbumbale.com SPAMMER >tnashbsv.com SPAMMER >turuntale.com SPAMMER All but one were already in uribl.com. I added the other ;) Keep up the good fight Steven! --Chris

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RE: [SURBL-Discuss] German spam crap
by Smith, Eric 17 May '05

17 May '05

Excellent thank you. I wasn't sure if the actual sites they were linking were involved. /E. -----Original Message----- From: discuss-bounces(a)lists.surbl.org [mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.surbl.org] On Behalf Of Raymond Dijkxhoorn Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 11:25 AM To: SURBL Discussion list Subject: RE: [SURBL-Discuss] German spam crap Hi! > So I saw the rule, but will any of the links in most of the messages be > added to SURBL? It's my understanding this is virus related coming … [View More]

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German spam crap
by Raymond Dijkxhoorn 17 May '05

17 May '05

Hi! Its mentioned on the SA list also, but since we got some questions about it from other people who didnt read it there: http://mailscanner.prolocation.net/german.cf Ruleset to stop the Sober crap thats been going around like crazy currently. The political spams written in german language... Hopefully it will help some people to stop this crap. Bye, Raymond.

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Re: MORE (was: Re: [SURBL-Discuss] yet another joe job)
by List Mail User 17 May '05

17 May '05

>> >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Steven Champeon [mailto:schampeo@hesketh.com] >> >Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 11:32 AM >> >To: discuss(a)lists.surbl.org >> >Subject: [SURBL-Discuss] yet another joe job >> > >> > >> > >> >Please list the following domains: >> > >> >dnbfbsqs.com SPAMMER >> >ghtnsecn.com SPAMMER >> >rumbumbale.com SPAMMER >> … [View More]

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yet another joe job
by Steven Champeon 16 May '05

16 May '05

Please list the following domains: dnbfbsqs.com SPAMMER ghtnsecn.com SPAMMER rumbumbale.com SPAMMER tnashbsv.com SPAMMER turuntale.com SPAMMER webstandards.org is being joe'd by the same spammer again: Zhamelgo, Alexandr aazhago(a)yahoo.com Profsoyuznaya 25-1, 31 Moscow, MSK 117418 RU +7.0956995731 Fax:+61.294750668 His nameservers for the domains are: DOG.CCPATONCEJK.BIZ 202.99.172.145 TSURT.CCPATONCEJK.BIZ 200.149.11.62 Thanks, Steve -- hesketh.… [View More]

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RE: [SURBL-Discuss] German spam crap
by Smith, Eric 16 May '05

16 May '05

So I saw the rule, but will any of the links in most of the messages be added to SURBL? It's my understanding this is virus related coming sometimes from internal hosts infected with a new class of virus that will turn the infected PC into a spam host. We do filter internal mail for spam also so I thought I would check if the links in these messages will eventually make it to SURBL. /E. -----Original Message----- From: discuss-bounces(a)lists.surbl.org [mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.surbl.… [View More]

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Re: [SURBL-Discuss] URIBL and PTR records
by List Mail User 13 May '05

13 May '05

>... > >when browsing unsubscribe links like http://www.signoffcorp.biz/uns.htm to >enter a spamtrap address I just noticed that quite a few of the pages look >extremely similar, DNS lookups show: > >$ host www.signoffcorp.biz >www.signoffcorp.biz has address 217.107.217.8 >$ host www.bestcds.biz >www.bestcds.biz has address 217.107.217.8 >$ host www.wonder-pills.com >www.wonder-pills.com has address 217.107.217.8 >$ host www.multimed.ws >www.… [View More]

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RE: [SURBL-Discuss] URIBL and PTR records
by Chris Santerre 13 May '05

13 May '05

> -----Original Message----- > From: wolfgang [mailto:mewolf1@gmx.net] > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 4:20 PM > To: SURBL Discuss > Subject: [SURBL-Discuss] URIBL and PTR records > > > when browsing unsubscribe links like > http://www.signoffcorp.biz/uns.htm to > enter a spamtrap address I just noticed that quite a few of > the pages look > extremely similar, DNS lookups show: > > $ host www.signoffcorp.biz > www.signoffcorp.biz has address … [View More]

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URIBL and PTR records
by wolfgang 13 May '05

13 May '05

when browsing unsubscribe links like http://www.signoffcorp.biz/uns.htm to enter a spamtrap address I just noticed that quite a few of the pages look extremely similar, DNS lookups show: $ host www.signoffcorp.biz www.signoffcorp.biz has address 217.107.217.8 $ host www.bestcds.biz www.bestcds.biz has address 217.107.217.8 $ host www.wonder-pills.com www.wonder-pills.com has address 217.107.217.8 $ host www.multimed.ws www.multimed.ws has address 217.107.217.8 $ host 217.107.217.8 8.217.… [View More]

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Feedback on adprofile.net wanted
by Jeff Chan 12 May '05

12 May '05

adprofile.net reportedly appeared in a flowers.com ham as: <td align="middle"><a href="http://tx.adprofile.net/tx/r?CID=12&M=3&sid=800ABC123"><IMG height=90 src="http://a1234.g.akamai.net/f/1233/1234/1a/www.1800flowers.com/800f_assets/im… me too120X90.gif" width="120" NOSEND="1" border="0"></a></td> Yet it's listed on WS by Bill Stearns. This may be a false positive. Does anyone have any more information about it? Catherine Hampton says it's not on … [View More]

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Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Feedback on adprofile.net wanted
by Robert Menschel 11 May '05

11 May '05

> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 22:34:13 -0700 > From: Jeff Chan <jeffc(a)surbl.org> > Subject: [SURBL-Discuss] Feedback on adprofile.net wanted > To: SURBL Discuss <discuss(a)lists.surbl.org> > Message-ID: <357174725.20050509223413(a)surbl.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > adprofile.net reportedly appeared in a flowers.com ham as: ... > Yet it's listed on WS by Bill Stearns. This may be a false > positive. Does anyone have any more … [View More]

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Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Feedback on adprofile.net wanted
by List Mail User 11 May '05

11 May '05

>... > >on Mon, May 09, 2005 at 10:34:13PM -0700, Jeff Chan wrote: >> adprofile.net reportedly appeared in a flowers.com ham as: >> >> <td align="middle"><a href="http://tx.adprofile.net/tx/r?CID=12&M=3&sid=800ABC123"><IMG height=90 >> src="http://a1234.g.akamai.net/f/1233/1234/1a/www.1800flowers.com/800f_assets/im… me >> too120X90.gif" width="120" NOSEND="1" border="0"></a></td> >> >> Yet it's listed on … [View More]

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Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Feedback on adprofile.net wanted
by List Mail User 11 May '05

11 May '05

>... > >adprofile.net reportedly appeared in a flowers.com ham as: > ><td align="middle"><a href="http://tx.adprofile.net/tx/r?CID=12&M=3&sid=800ABC123"><IMG height=90 >src="http://a1234.g.akamai.net/f/1233/1234/1a/www.1800flowers.com/800f_assets/im… me >too120X90.gif" width="120" NOSEND="1" border="0"></a></td> > >Yet it's listed on WS by Bill Stearns. This may be a false >positive. Does anyone have any more information … [View More]

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Spam dispersed across multiple messages
by Matthew Wilson 11 May '05

11 May '05

Has anyone seen any spams that use two (or more) messages to catch the recipient's eye? E.g.: The first message has cutesy CSS-obfuscated text and maybe a graphic or two, and informs/commands the user to watch for the follow-up email from the same person and with a certain given catchphrase in the subject line The second followup message that arrives a minute or two later is perhaps marked with an identical From: name (but not an identical from address), and perhaps the prophesied … [View More]

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Re: [SURBL-Discuss] multi.surbl.org.rbldnsd Update Times
by Jeff Chan 10 May '05

10 May '05

[off list reply published with Eric's permission] On Monday, May 9, 2005, 9:33:12 AM, Eric Smith wrote: > Found out this morning it was an error in the way we were reporting file > times. Everything is good now. We were piping modified times out to an > HTML page every hour then we check if the page had changed at all in the > last 12 hours. > /E. Cool. BTW if you want to know the actual timestamp of the data, the best way is to look at the zone file serial number. Those … [View More]

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RE: [SURBL-Discuss] newly registered domains
by Chris Santerre 10 May '05

10 May '05

Because they don't take to kindly to anyone doing tons of whois looksups an hour. Trust me ;) --Chris >-----Original Message----- >From: Matthew Wilson [mailto:matthew@boomer.com] >Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 9:44 AM >To: SURBL Discussion list >Subject: RE: [SURBL-Discuss] newly registered domains > > >Why not integrate a whois date lookup directly into SURBL or URIBL? >Design an encoding system whereby >suspectedspammydomain.spammertld.dr.surbl.org (or uribl.com)… [View More]

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RE: [SURBL-Discuss] newly registered domains
by Chris Santerre 09 May '05

09 May '05

Exactly, and do you have any idea how many of the lookups would be needed per day? I do! Enough to get the uribl dns ip doing the lookups, blocked from the whois servers. People running the whois servers don't really play nice with others. You need to approach them very carefully. APNIC is not going to be to helpful ;) --Chris >-----Original Message----- >From: Matthew Wilson [mailto:matthew@boomer.com] >Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 1:29 PM >To: SURBL Discussion list >… [View More]

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