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Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Re[2]: More whitelist.cf
by List Mail User 12 Jun '05

12 Jun '05

>... > >RM> ... more whitelist entries ... > >... > >whitelist_from_rcvd no.reply(a)1and1.com kundenserver.de # 1and1 Hosting & ISP >http://survey.1and1.com > >... > I'm not so sure that 1&1 is immune from forgery, but if you list it, you should also list the four domains oneandone.{com,net} and 1und1.{com,net}. They are all the same company and forward responses to abuse@ and to postmaster@ queries through the same server (the problem is that *some* customer email also seems to go through that server occasionally, and they have had abusive customers in the past - so a forgery seems possible, even if unlikely). Paul Shupak track(a)plectere.com

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First SURBL whitelist submissions from SARE whitelist.cf
by sare＠menschel.net 12 Jun '05

12 Jun '05

Hello Jeff, Saturday, May 28, 2005, 12:39:12 AM, you wrote: JC> On Friday, May 27, 2005, 4:13:22 PM, Robert Menschel wrote: >> Friday, May 27, 2005, 1:06:46 AM, you wrote: JC>>> On Thursday, May 26, 2005, 5:58:02 PM, Robert Menschel wrote: JC>>>>> 2. Would they be appropriate to whitelist (i.e. exclude from JC>>>>> listing) in SURBLs? >>>> Unlikely, since the web sites mentioned in the emails are rarely the >>>> same as the From address or routing server. However, the primary web >>>> sites within those emails might be good candidates for the SURBL >>>> whitelist. JC>>> Fair enough. You don't happen to have a list of those JC>>> corresponding websites do you? :-) >> Not readily handy, but if you can find me a few extra hours :-), I can >> scan my corpus and put together a partial list. JC> No rush, but if you can get them sometime that would be great! JC> :-) At the rate things are going, I'll never have the time needed to do a full list. So maybe I can work through whitelist.cf line by line, and send you a couple at a time, on occasion... whitelist_from_rcvd *(a)ashkenaz.com roving.com Ashkenaz Music & Dance Community Center In addition to http://ashkenaz.com, their emails have links to http://ui.constantcontact.com ConstantContact is occasionally abused, but is used by a lot of ham newsletters, so probably should be whitelisted if not already. whitelist_from_rcvd calmt(a)calmt.pmail.biz amsnet.com California Musical Theatre (Sacramento) http://calmt.pmail.biz whitelist_from_rcvd *(a)centurytheatres.com centurytheatres.com Century Theatres http://www.centurytheatres.com and http://www.fandango.com It's a start... Bob Menschel

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Re: spam from Cricket Liu via postsnet/campaigner (FW: Webinar: Active Directory Best Practices for DNS)
by Steven Champeon 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

on Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 11:37:34AM -0700, Cricket Liu wrote: > Hi, Tim. Hi, Steven. > > >On Jun 10, 2005, at 10:47 AM, Steven Champeon wrote: > > > >>FYI - there's been some question about postsnet and campaigner lately > >>on the SURBL whitelist list. > >> > >>Well, I was just subscribed to a postsnet list, managed by > >>campaigner. > >> > >>If you go to the URL to unsub, including the final '.', you get a > >>silly > >>Javascript popup saying "Your work has been saved to date however > >>your > >>session has timed out and you must re-login", hit ok, get > >>redirected to > >>gotmarketing.com thence to campaigner.com. > > Hmm. I'm not sure why that is. I'll ask our Marketing folks to look > into it. Oh, that's really simple: the copy in the message thinks URLs are words, not functional strings that should be bracketed or otherwise kept apart from punctuation. I was merely remarking that a message ostensibly sent via postsnet also involved campaigner.com and gomarketing, all of whom have been on SURBL's radar lately. We've been trying to decide whether the fact that "some" legitimate email refers to campaigner.com means that we ought to whitelist it and let the rest of the spam through. > >>Note that they explicitly say "we bought the list" below. I'm > >>surprised > >>to see Cricket Liu spamming. Guess I'll never buy another edition of > >>_DNS and BIND_. > > I'm sorry to hear that. I was extremely sorry to see that someone from whom I have learned so much over the years would stoop to purchasing address lists in order to spam people. Have you not been paying attention to the growing spam problem? Here we reject 65-90% of /all inbound mail delivery attempts/ as spam, and it's getting worse. And mainstream companies who spam (or who hire mainsleaze spam companies to spam for them) aren't helping matters at /all/. > >>My question is simple: > >> > >>Why did you subscribe me to this list without my permission? If > >>you feel > >>that you have permission from me to subscribe me to this list, may > >>I ask > >>where you think you got it? Is ORA cognizant/accepting of such stupid > >>and/or risky practices by their authors? > > I'm not even sure which list "this list" is, but I'll forward your > message to our Marketing folks and ask that, if we own this list, your > address be deleted from it. If we simply bought the list, though, > there's probably nothing we can do to delete you from the list. If you own the list, I'd be very interested to hear how my address ended up on it. You *do* maintain a log of all subscription requests, of course, and can tell me when I subscribed, when I confirmed my subscription (via an email sent to my address to confirm that the person who subbed my address was actually /me/), from what IP address, on what day and what time, etc, right? If not, you're essentially looking to get yourself blacklisted. And not just by SURBL or one of the other blacklists, but by a million private blacklists around the world, who are a harder lot to scrub. If you simply bought the list, you may want to familiarize yourself and your marketing team with basic netiquette and guidelines for responsible (as opposed to merely "legal") email marketing. It's 2005 - anyone purchasing so-called "opt-in" lists in this day and age is begging to get blacklisted and have their reputation tarnished. I realize that if you purchased the list you probably can't get me removed from the original - I've come to expect my address to be traded. Frankly, I'm astounded to see someone as apparently net-savvy as you just accepting the idea of purchasing mailing lists. I'm very, very disappointed. Steve > Again, my apologies. > > cricket -- hesketh.com/inc. v: +1(919)834-2552 f: +1(919)834-2554 w: http://hesketh.com join us! http://hesketh.com/about/careers/account_manager.html join us!

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Re: spam from Cricket Liu via postsnet/campaigner (FW: Webinar: Active Directory Best Practices for DNS)
by Steven Champeon 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

on Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 10:55:36AM -0700, Tim O'Reilly wrote: > I don't know anything about this. I'll look into it. Thanks, Tim. I appreciate it. -- hesketh.com/inc. v: +1(919)834-2552 f: +1(919)834-2554 w: http://hesketh.com join us! http://hesketh.com/about/careers/account_manager.html join us!

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spam from Cricket Liu via postsnet/campaigner (FW: Webinar: Active Directory Best Practices for DNS)
by Steven Champeon 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

FYI - there's been some question about postsnet and campaigner lately on the SURBL whitelist list. Well, I was just subscribed to a postsnet list, managed by campaigner. If you go to the URL to unsub, including the final '.', you get a silly Javascript popup saying "Your work has been saved to date however your session has timed out and you must re-login", hit ok, get redirected to gotmarketing.com thence to campaigner.com. Note that they explicitly say "we bought the list" below. I'm surprised to see Cricket Liu spamming. Guess I'll never buy another edition of _DNS and BIND_. I've Cc:'d Cricket as well as Tim O'Reilly, the publisher for Cricket's book(s). My question is simple: Why did you subscribe me to this list without my permission? If you feel that you have permission from me to subscribe me to this list, may I ask where you think you got it? Is ORA cognizant/accepting of such stupid and/or risky practices by their authors? Steve (ORA author/editor and owner of every edition of DNS and BIND except the next one, if this crap continues...) ----- Forwarded message from Cricket Liu <cricket(a)infoblox.com> ----- X-EL-User-Policy: ASK X-Received-From: Cricket_Liu_gzgrgz(a)postsnet.com X-Delivered-To: <schampeo(a)hesketh.com> X-Originating-IP: [69.28.223.137] Received: from mta11br.postsnet.com (mta11br.postsnet.com [69.28.223.137]) by habanero.hesketh.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/20050406) with SMTP id j59M1gCt012350 for <schampeo(a)hesketh.com>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:02:10 -0400 X-EL-Offwhitelist: sent via mta11br.postsnet.com, occasional spam source Message-ID: <13755331.1118354497825.KadaSegment.82.1(a)mta11br.postsnet.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:01:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Cricket Liu <cricket(a)infoblox.com> Reply-To: "Cricket Liu" <Cricket_Liu_gzgrgz(a)postsnet.com> To: schampeo(a)hesketh.com Subject: Webinar: Active Directory Best Practices for DNS Errors-To: Cricket_Liu_gzgrgz(a)postsnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_574142_26711400.1118354497825" Bounces-To: Cricket_Liu_gzgrgz(a)postsnet.com X-Campaign: 494785.494149.458053786 X-Folder: Default Content-Length: 16651 Lines: 386 WEBINAR: DNS BEST PRACTICES FOR BUILDING RESILIENT ACTIVE DIRECTORY INFRASTRUCTURE Tuesday, June 28, 9:00 AM and 4:00 PM (PDT) Register now... http://postsnet.com/r.html?c=494785&r=494149&t=458053786&l=1&d=86127770&u=h… Steve - In our continuing Identity Experts Series, I'm pleased to announce that Infoblox is hosting a free webinar with NetPro, one of the industry's leading experts in Active Directory infrastructure management and a Microsoft Gold Certified Partner. Microsoft's Active Directory is increasingly important to most enterprise networks. As such, it's critical to design and maintain AD system with maximum reliability in mind. A key component of a resilient AD infrastructure is an effective approach to deploying, maintaining, and monitoring DNS. In this informative session, we will explore practical examples of modern DNS best practices that support nonstop AD services in the network. DATES AND REGISTRATION We will hold two sessions on Tuesday, June 28, at 9:00 am and 4:00 pm Pacific. To register for this event, please go to: http://postsnet.com/r.html?c=494785&r=494149&t=458053786&l=1&d=86127770&u=h… (Space is limited, so reserve your seat as soon as possible.) PARTICIPANTS * Gil Kirkpatrick, Chief Technical Officer, NetPro, and author of MacMillan USA's Active Directory Programming, is a renowned expert on enterprise directories and is a 2005 recipient of Microsoft's MVP Award. * Cricket Liu, VP of Architecture, Infoblox, and author of O'Reilly & Associates' DNS and BIND, DNS & BIND Cookbook, and DNS On Windows Server 2003, is an expert on Domain Name System architecture, services, and deployment. * Rick Kagan, VP of Marketing, Infoblox, is an industry expert on securing business networks and developing network identity infrastructure. I hope you can join us! If you have any questions, please contact us at events(a)infoblox.com. Thanks, Cricket Register now... http://postsnet.com/r.html?c=494785&r=494149&t=458053786&l=1&d=86127770&u=h… You are receiving this email because you have requested information from us in the past, have requested information from one of our trusted partners, or are a member of a list that we have purchased. If you would like to change your communications preferences or no longer recieve mailings from Infoblox, please contact us at mailings(a)infoblox.com or write us at Infoblox, 475 Potrero Ave., Sunnyvale, CA 94085 USA. You are subscribed as schampeo(a)hesketh.com. To unsubscribe please click here: http://postsnet.com/r.html?c=494785&r=494149&t=458053786&l=6&ea=schampeo@he…. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- hesketh.com/inc. v: +1(919)834-2552 f: +1(919)834-2554 w: http://hesketh.com join us! http://hesketh.com/about/careers/account_manager.html join us!

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Re: [SURBL-Discuss] [question] my own surbl list?
by List Mail User 09 Jun '05

09 Jun '05

>... >Hello, all. > >I have operated SA 3.0.x with surbl.SURBL is best for me. >and I would like to make my own surbl list for some reason. > >So I added zone below. but it seems that this doesn't work. > > zone "my.surbl.org" { > type master; > file "surbl/my.surbl.org.bind"; > }; > >and added like below at 25_uribl.cf. > >urirhssub URIBL_MY_SURBL my.surbl.org. A 32 >body URIBL_MY_SURBL eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_MY_SURBL') >describe URIBL_MY_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the MY SURBL >blocklist >tflags URIBL_MY_SURBL net > > >What's the problem? > >Thanks in advance. > >What's > >_________________________________________________________________ >ºžŽÙ ºüž£°í ºž±â ÆíÇÑ Žºœº. ¿ÀŽÃÀÇ ÈÁŠŽÂ MSN Žºœº¿¡Œ È®ÀÎÇÏŒŒ¿ä. >http://www.msn.co.kr/news/ > >_______________________________________________ >Discuss mailing list >Discuss(a)lists.surbl.org >http://lists.surbl.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > Two problems that probably won't answer your question. 1) You should not try to be authoritative for a subdomain of someone else's domain (i.e. surbl.org) unless they delegate it to you. In other words, pick a domain like mybl.domain.tld where you control domain.tld *or* if you don't control a domain of your own, then choose an invalid tld (e.g. "xyz" or "localdomain") and use a name like "bl.xyz" for your blacklist's domain. 2) Don't add it to "25_uribl.cf" where it will be overwritten by any upgrade; Instead put it in your local.cf (it will function the same way). Finally some advice that might help: Make sure that both you are using the DNS server you have configured the new domain on, and check that it is actually serving the new domain (e.g. "dig new_domain any @my_dns_server" and assuming *nix, that "my_dns_server" is the first listed in resolv.conf). It is probably more likely that you have an error in your zone file or name server config files than in the snippet of SA config above. Good luck, Paul Shupak track(a)plectere.com

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How about uribl.com?
by Monty Ree 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

Hello,all. I have found that this site similar to SURBL. http://www.uribl.com/ Anyone who use this BL? How about this URIBL? Thanks in advance. _________________________________________________________________ 고.. 감.. 도.. 사.. 랑.. 만.. 들.. 기.. MSN 러브 http://www.msn.co.kr/love/

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RE: [SURBL-Discuss] How about uribl.com?
by Chris Santerre 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

>-----Original Message----- >From: Bret Miller [mailto:bret.miller@wcg.org] >Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:24 AM >To: SURBL Discussion list >Subject: RE: [SURBL-Discuss] How about uribl.com? > > >> I have found that this site similar to SURBL. >> >> http://www.uribl.com/ >> >> Anyone who use this BL? >> How about this URIBL? > >I hesitate to respond to this... URIBL is a good list like SURBL is a >good list. SURBL policies strive for a zero-false-positive list so it >can be used blindly to block e-mail. URIBL policies strive for a >zero-false-positive "black" list plus a sends-a-lot-of-spam but may hit >ham "grey" list. These are combined in a multi list so you >shouldn't use >multi to block e-mail. > >In addition, URIBL is really kind of in BETA stage right now. They are >working out the front-end details and I'm sure will soon announce their >existence and be included in a future version of SA. > >Bret LOL, I'm not saying anything. I was going to, but figured I'd wait to see what Jeff said. But since he has already replied to other thread, I guess he chooses to ignore this one ;) I love you Jeff. ;) --Chris

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[question] my own surbl list?
by Monty Ree 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

Hello, all. I have operated SA 3.0.x with surbl.SURBL is best for me. and I would like to make my own surbl list for some reason. So I added zone below. but it seems that this doesn't work. zone "my.surbl.org" { type master; file "surbl/my.surbl.org.bind"; }; and added like below at 25_uribl.cf. urirhssub URIBL_MY_SURBL my.surbl.org. A 32 body URIBL_MY_SURBL eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_MY_SURBL') describe URIBL_MY_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the MY SURBL blocklist tflags URIBL_MY_SURBL net What's the problem? Thanks in advance. What's _________________________________________________________________ 보다 빠르고 보기 편한 뉴스. 오늘의 화제는 MSN 뉴스에서 확인하세요. http://www.msn.co.kr/news/

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20050605 embedded image spam
by Sean Sowell 05 Jun '05

05 Jun '05

Hello SURBL folks --- Thanks again for your help. Embedded image false negatives continue to drop. Below is a fresh list of dates and domains. I cleaned up the formatting and put each domain on a line. All times are Pacific (now GMT - 7). Will also begin uploading to the URIBL_BLACK and _GREY lists in a few moments (thank you Chris!). Kind regards, Sean S. PS: I keep .eml and .pdf copies of each of these if you need any. ===== 20050601-2349 saverzforyou2.info 20050602-1734 mediagroup.com 20050602-1734 searsappistream.com 20050602-1734 yourbillspaid.com 20050602-1816 consumersurveygroup.com 20050602-1816 internetsmartshopping.com 20050602-1816 shoppingsmarts.net 20050603-0116 consumerresearchcorporation.com 20050603-0116 mediagroup.com 20050603-0116 producttestpanel.com 20050603-0116 roastorianthembers.com 20050603-0155 golfshore.com 20050603-0346 consumerresearchcorporation.com 20050603-0346 mediagroup.com 20050603-0346 palpsenseateddy.com 20050603-0346 producttestpanel.com 20050603-0844 selfshopper.com 20050603-0844 techselfshopper.com 20050603-0903 thedealstouchdown.com 20050603-0903 touchdowndeals.com 20050603-1133 fortuneloungeplayersclub.com 20050603-1133 platinumplay.com 20050603-1133 saverzforyou2.info 20050603-1150 golfshore.com 20050603-1236 calmra.com 20050603-1239 besaway.com 20050603-1340 benderrickshawning.com 20050603-1340 mediagroup.com 20050603-1420 freehandbags.com 20050603-1420 qalba.com 20050603-1420 technologyengagement.com 20050603-1528 consumerresearchcorporation.com 20050603-1528 dicellostereopen.com 20050603-1528 mediagroup.com 20050603-1528 producttestpanel.com 20050603-1556 eahge.com 20050603-1556 eaifo.com 20050603-1556 igetnocredit.com 20050603-1556 implusemg.com 20050603-1625 clickbuyhappiness.com 20050603-1625 teqia.com 20050603-1714 consumerresearchcorporation.com 20050603-1714 mediagroup.com 20050603-1714 penternesternway.com 20050603-1714 producttestpanel.com 20050603-1745 jestersettlending.com 20050603-1745 maxmoolah.com 20050603-1745 mediagroup.com 20050603-1745 winhundred.com 20050603-2025 ptrak.com 20050603-2056 undershow.com 20050603-2150 ptrak.com 20050604-0852 undershow.com 20050604-0944 saverzforyou2.info 20050604-0944 superbrewards.com 20050604-1235 dentalismallergic.com 20050604-1235 mediagroup.com 20050604-1352 eaobs.com 20050604-1352 intelligencebarometer.com 20050604-1352 prizedistributors.com 20050604-1421 eatnh.com 20050604-1421 fcgdirect9.com 20050604-1421 justinthenick.com 20050604-1557 eaaun.com 20050604-1557 farfarawayplaces.com 20050604-1557 implusemg.com 20050604-1627 actmc.com 20050604-1627 kuaea.com 20050604-1627 readyforgoodtimes.com 20050604-1816 creditmethis.com 20050604-1816 dwnow.com 20050604-1816 yourgiftcards.com 20050604-1821 fortuneloungeplayersclub.com 20050604-1821 platinumplay.com 20050604-1821 saverzforyou2.info 20050604-1824 striveforsavings.com 20050604-1824 striveforsavingsnet.com 20050604-1831 overselfshopper.com 20050604-1831 selfshopper.com 20050605-0139 datdir.com 20050605-0139 rocketoffers.com

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