-----Original Message----- From: Jeff Chan [mailto:jeffc@surbl.org] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 9:36 PM To: 'SURBL Discussion list' Subject: Re: [SURBL-Discuss] safe.surbl.org concerns
On Friday, November 12, 2004, 6:16:48 PM, Rob McEwen wrote:
RE: safe.surbl.org concerns
While I do see the reasoning behind the need for a "golden"
list that users
can feel **particularly** secure about using in a MTA-like
"set it and
forget it" type of blocking... I can help but wonder:
(1) Wasn't the original goal of ALL surbl.org to have a low
enough FP rate
to be able to operate in "set it and forget it" MTA-like
blocking mode? (I
guess the answer to this question is that Fortune-500 types
want a really,
really powerful assurance that they can employ SURBL with
virtually zero
FPs?)
Yes, but it seems really difficult to achieve perfection in any given list.
This is a proposal for some experiments to see if we can derive a "carrier grade" list, as Carl Friend called it off list, from some of the existing data. Haven't picked any names yet.
(2) Even so, can I (we) be assured that having a "golden"
list like this
will NOT diminish our standards with the regular list.
Yes, we will not be dumping a bunch of grey entries into any of the existing lists.
In other words, I would like to know that the FP rate of the regular list will
at least stay
the same (and hopefully continue to improve).
Yes, that's what should happen. The FPs per existing list should remain stable or be further improved. That remains a goal.
I'd hate to see SURBL administrators get "slack" by virtue of thinking "well, if
they wanted
**that** level of low FPs, they should have used the golden list."
I agree. We should not let that happen. As far as I'm concerned our biggest challenge is reducing FPs. We're already doing a good job of catching spam.
I agree with Jeff. The ONLY list that is getting grey domains added is the UC list. Which is NOT an official SURL.org list. And it isn't ready for prime time yet.
Lowering the FP rate in WS is the first and foremost goal for many contributors. WS will be as close to zero FP as we can humanly get.
--Chris