-----Original Message----- From: discuss-bounces@lists.surbl.org [mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.surbl.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Chan Sent: 24 December 2004 03:51 To: William Stearns Cc: SURBL Discussion list Subject: Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Proflowers again,was: Send Holiday Flowers for $24.99 plus Beautiful Glass Vase fromProflowers (fwd)
On Thursday, December 23, 2004, 6:43:42 PM, William Stearns wrote:
Good evening, Jeff, all,
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Jeff Chan wrote:
On Thursday, December 23, 2004, 3:51:58 PM, Brett Cove wrote:
William Stearns wrote:
We discussed proflowers earlier this year. To quote Jeff:It also seems they're at least trying to cut back on
spamming if
we accept the decrease in recent NANAS sightings.
I just received 4 more spams from them, oneattached. Perhaps
they just get quiet between holidays? I'd like to place one vote for blacklisting them. Opinions?
We've seen piles of spam promoting proflowers.com in the past two days, all containing asandox.com uris and arriving via an asandox.com relay. IMO asando.com (http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL20781) is the uri that should be blocked, not proflowers.com.
Thank you. That is exactly the right way to reason things. If asando_ is the actual spamming affiliate or whatever, then they should be the ones to block.
It raises an interesting philosophical question; is theoriginal company that paid for the compaign and benefits from the sales responsible? I don't claim to have an all-seeing answer,
and would like
to hear other people's opinions. Cheers, - Bill
Yes, they're responsible. Does that mean none of their customers should be able to get their mail?
That's a much harder and more relevant philosophical question.
I suppose it depends on the response of proflowers when they are told that they are being promoted via spam. If they respond that this was never their intention and the campaign will stop immediately then I'd say leave them alone. However if they don't stop the campaign then block them. Besides if you just block the spammer then proflowers will get the messages that anti spamming doesn't directly hurt them only the spammer and they will shift to another one.