I ironically now find tighturl.com listed in SURBL as the result effectively being joe-jobbed by some sleazeball promoting a work from home scam and using a tighturl link to a fake removal page, which was blocked by me within the 45th access (and is now probably around 10,000 hits which redirect to a page explaining the inadvisibility of clicking on links in spam or putting your email address into a spammer's removal box).
AbuseButler has yet to respond to mail sent late Saturday night to abuse@abusebutler.com about the matter, and they clearly are not resolving URLs to their destination as I would have expected from a data source used by SURBL.
Just what is the SURBL policy about listing URLs that have not been resolved to their destination, and about the quality of the data accepted into SURBL? I find the lack of a response from AbuseButler to its abuse address an indication that they're not running a responsible or reliable service over there.
- Ron
Ron Guerin wrote:
AbuseButler ... clearly are not resolving URLs to their destination as I would have expected from a data source used by SURBL.
About as soon as I sent this, I realized there wouldn't be much value in resolving the URL to its destination, although I thought that this was the expected behavior regardless. That however doesn't change the impression I've gotten that AbuseButler doesn't have anyone minding the store. (I may not get satisfaction from them, but I think it's entirely reasonable to expect a timely response to abuse@)
- Ron
On Monday, August 4, 2008, 4:14:27 PM, Ron Guerin wrote:
I ironically now find tighturl.com listed in SURBL as the result effectively being joe-jobbed by some sleazeball promoting a work from home scam and using a tighturl link to a fake removal page, which was blocked by me within the 45th access (and is now probably around 10,000 hits which redirect to a page explaining the inadvisibility of clicking on links in spam or putting your email address into a spammer's removal box).
AbuseButler has yet to respond to mail sent late Saturday night to abuse@abusebutler.com about the matter, and they clearly are not resolving URLs to their destination as I would have expected from a data source used by SURBL.
Just what is the SURBL policy about listing URLs that have not been resolved to their destination, and about the quality of the data accepted into SURBL? I find the lack of a response from AbuseButler to its abuse address an indication that they're not running a responsible or reliable service over there.
- Ron
Please note that the correct contact address for SURBL list removals is whitelist at surbl, except for OB:
http://www.surbl.org/lists.html#removal
Jeff C.
Jeff Chan wrote:
Please note that the correct contact address for SURBL list removals is whitelist at surbl, except for OB:
Yep. Knew that. Wasn't posting here to be whitelisted or removed, but to try and figure out what is going on with one particular data source, and also to try and get a better feel for what I've been sticking my neck out on advocating the use of, considering that several new data sources have been added to SURBL since the last time I took a hard look at any of them.
Aside from that, I'm also interested in sharing my own abuse data and perhaps that of cooperating users of mine, and would like to know what sort of standards have to be met. As I think I said earlier in another thread, much of the abuse of my system doesn't turn up in SURBL until later. Given that I seem to be in possession of some abuse data earlier than everyone else at the moment, the next logical step would seem to be to share it.
- Ron
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