1)We DO NOT include it in multi.
Please reconsider this... Including it in multi means a lot less DNS traffic, and that's a serious plus when you're using a greylist that you probably won't use to increase the spam score by much.
Bret
Bret,
You are reinforcing all of Jeff's arguments for NOT doing greylisting. If we create an unconfirmed.surbl.org list and then merge this into the multi list, then we might as well not worry about FPs anymore. Heck, we might was well throw every domain found in every spamtrap and be done with spam forever ;)
Also, the fact that you would even suggest this further proves Jeff's point.
I'm all in favor of creating an unconfirmed.surbl.org list. But it would HAVE to stay separate from the multi.surbl.org list or ALL the problems Jeff described will come true.
...not to mention, this would also result in even MORE DNS traffic because many of use would then start using EVERY list but the multi list.
Rob McEwen
On Thursday, September 2, 2004, 9:34:01 AM, Rob McEwen wrote:
1)We DO NOT include it in multi.
Please reconsider this... Including it in multi means a lot less DNS traffic, and that's a serious plus when you're using a greylist that you probably won't use to increase the spam score by much.
I'm all in favor of creating an unconfirmed.surbl.org list. But it would HAVE to stay separate from the multi.surbl.org list or ALL the problems Jeff described will come true.
...not to mention, this would also result in eve n MORE DNS traffic because many of use would then start using EVERY list but the multi list.
It depends on how the multi list is used. If it's used as intended, the applications have the ability to differentiate which list the hits came from and can exclude certain lists, give each list a different score, etc.
It multi is used in a way where the component lists that go into it cannot be distinguished (a use which is recommened against) then including a greylist would definitely defeat most of the purpose of trying to make a distinction between black and grey.
In any case a grey list would be separate and never in multi.
And I'm opposed to the idea of a greylist for some of the reasons given earlier.
Jeff C.
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