-----Original Message----- From: Jeff Chan [mailto:jeffc@surbl.org] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 3:46 AM To: SURBL Discussion list Subject: Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Draw the line (was: Need help checking FP list from Theo)
On Wednesday, September 8, 2004, 2:08:08 PM, SM wrote:
Hi Chris, At 08:09 08-09-2004, Chris Santerre wrote:
NO it doesn't! The point was..... its interesting!! :)
123inkjets has been
linked to a ton of other spam domains. The fact that they
have customers
makes it legit???? SO anyone who falls for these spams and
buys something,
makes it legit? Think about that. Where do you draw the line?
If a few legitimate customers are enough to get a domain off
a blacklist,
then most of the domains currently listed will sooner or later get off. There will always be false positives because one man's spam is another man's ham. Someone should draw the line somewhere.
Yes, we have drawn a line. A domain that's mostly used in spam will probably get listed. A domain that's only being used in spam will definitely get listed. A domain that's mostly used in legitimate messages probably won't get listed. A domain that's only used in legitimate messages definitely won't get listed.
So what does that mean for 123inkjets? If I understand you correcly, your are whitelisting this spammer because a legit newsletter happens to have links to them in it. Be it either an ad or whatever.
So instead of the newsletter breaking ties with the spammer, the spammer domain gets a free ride?
--Chris
On Thursday, September 9, 2004, 6:17:24 AM, Chris Santerre wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Jeff Chan [mailto:jeffc@surbl.org] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 3:46 AM To: SURBL Discussion list Subject: Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Draw the line (was: Need help checking FP list from Theo)
On Wednesday, September 8, 2004, 2:08:08 PM, SM wrote:
Hi Chris, At 08:09 08-09-2004, Chris Santerre wrote:
NO it doesn't! The point was..... its interesting!! :)
123inkjets has been
linked to a ton of other spam domains. The fact that they
have customers
makes it legit???? SO anyone who falls for these spams and
buys something,
makes it legit? Think about that. Where do you draw the line?
If a few legitimate customers are enough to get a domain off
a blacklist,
then most of the domains currently listed will sooner or later get off. There will always be false positives because one man's spam is another man's ham. Someone should draw the line somewhere.
Yes, we have drawn a line. A domain that's mostly used in spam will probably get listed. A domain that's only being used in spam will definitely get listed. A domain that's mostly used in legitimate messages probably won't get listed. A domain that's only used in legitimate messages definitely won't get listed.
So what does that mean for 123inkjets? If I understand you correcly, your are whitelisting this spammer because a legit newsletter happens to have links to them in it. Be it either an ad or whatever.
In this case, yes. 123inkjets appears in many legitimate newsletters. Should we block all those newsletters?
So instead of the newsletter breaking ties with the spammer, the spammer domain gets a free ride?
No, complain to the newsletters. Maybe they know something we don't.
Jeff C.
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