The thread I had found this in didn't contain the full body. However I searched and found a copy and sure enough, there is an uptilt.com link. It's on it's way to SURBL now :)
As always J, Thanks!
--Chris
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In terms of the message, does uptilt.com have any links in it? often in this situation they'd have added an "unsubscribe" link of their own which SURBL would then catch.
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Jeff Chan writes:
On Thursday, June 24, 2004, 9:16:51 AM, Chris Santerre wrote:
But the thread basically says that uptilt.com (a known
spam sender) was
hired by tonyrobbins.com to advertise. So they sent out
spam. Now my
question is, do we list them?
Do we list somewhat legit domains that hire these people
without (or maybe
with) the knowledge that they will spam? I'm leaning
towards yes, in the
hopes they will learn to choose their advertisers more carefully. Thoughts?
The answer I would prefer is to *not* list a mostly legitimate domain like tonyrobbins.com, but to let conventional RBLs list uptilt.com and their IPs as a spam sender. In other words, let spamhaus list uptilt's addresses and block on them, but don't list tonyrobbins.com in SURBLs since it could potentially be mentioned in legitimate messages. Of course it would not hurt to let the possibly legitimate company's lawyers know they should not use spammers, and cite the law being broken.
This one seems like a relatively clear division of responsibility to me. Others may be more or less clear.
Jeff C.
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