-----Original Message----- From: Jeff Chan [mailto:jeffc@surbl.org] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 9:24 AM To: SURBL Discuss Subject: Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Whitelist Please
On Thursday, September 2, 2004, 6:19:04 AM, Chris Santerre wrote:
Uh...I'm confused. So you did or did not whitelist all of
these. I would
have thought that this one link would have been enough. Confused :)
They are all whitelisted.
Flogo sucks donkey doughnuts. HOWEVER there are lusers who
sign up for it. I
would not list them. But some of these other domains, I would list.
I'm going to assume similar policies across all their domains. It doesn't make much sense for them to be tame spammer on some sites and uber spammer on others.
euniverse is not squeeky clean.
Never said they were. The question is do they have legitimate uses, and it sounds like the answer is yes.
Jeff C.
Did I ever send the RBL results for dietingplans.com?
Results: Positive=9, Negative=21 (2004-09-01 19:09:48 UTC)
* @SPAM/spamsource: 12.129.205/24: 553 SPAM,BULK ATT mail3051.flowgo.com special@intelligentx.com 2002-04; SBL http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL5535; SPEWS [1] euniverse/yourbigvote, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S1 * AHBL/dnsbl.ahbl.org: 12.129.205/24: 553 AHBL Spam Source; AHBL Open Proxy [Details] * AUDNSBL/dnsbl.net.au: 12.129.205/24: 553 AUDNSBL Multiple Spam Traps Block List [Remove] * DRBL/drbl.all: 12.129.205/24: 553 DRBL weight: 1.4; vote.drbl.sandy.ru@ns.sci-nnov.ru/0.6 vote.drbl.vsu.ru@ns.vsu.ru/0.8; flowgo.com; flowgo.com spam engine. 20020218. Blocked by blacklist-admin@vsu.ru * SBL/spamhaus.org: 12.129.205/24: 553 SBL http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL5535 * SPEWS/spews.org: 12.129.205/24: 553 SPEWS2 [1] euniverse/yourbigvote, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S1677 * BLARS/block.blars.org: INET 127.3.8.32 * INTERSIL/flowgo.bulk: Flowgo/Euniverse/media synergy/etc.; http://www.cauce.org/incidents/flonetwork.com/index.shtml; 2001May01; dig TXT netlist.flowgoaway.com for CIDR list * FIVETEN/flonetwork.com.bulk: UNKNOWN TXT (permfail,nodata)
I mean, to me this is a no brainer to list. :)
--Chris (I'm annoying sometimes!)
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 11:25:40 -0400 , Chris Santerre csanterre@merchantsoverseas.com wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Jeff Chan [mailto:jeffc@surbl.org] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 9:24 AM To: SURBL Discuss Subject: Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Whitelist Please
On Thursday, September 2, 2004, 6:19:04 AM, Chris Santerre wrote:
Uh...I'm confused. So you did or did not whitelist all of
these. I would
have thought that this one link would have been enough. Confused :)
They are all whitelisted.
Flogo sucks donkey doughnuts. HOWEVER there are lusers who
sign up for it. I
would not list them. But some of these other domains, I would list.
I'm going to assume similar policies across all their domains. It doesn't make much sense for them to be tame spammer on some sites and uber spammer on others.
euniverse is not squeeky clean.
Never said they were. The question is do they have legitimate uses, and it sounds like the answer is yes.
Jeff C.
Did I ever send the RBL results for dietingplans.com?
Results: Positive=9, Negative=21 (2004-09-01 19:09:48 UTC)
* @SPAM/spamsource: 12.129.205/24: 553 SPAM,BULK ATT mail3051.flowgo.comspecial@intelligentx.com 2002-04; SBL http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL5535; SPEWS [1] euniverse/yourbigvote, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S1 * AHBL/dnsbl.ahbl.org: 12.129.205/24: 553 AHBL Spam Source; AHBL Open Proxy [Details] * AUDNSBL/dnsbl.net.au: 12.129.205/24: 553 AUDNSBL Multiple Spam Traps Block List [Remove] * DRBL/drbl.all: 12.129.205/24: 553 DRBL weight: 1.4; vote.drbl.sandy.ru@ns.sci-nnov.ru/0.6 vote.drbl.vsu.ru@ns.vsu.ru/0.8; flowgo.com; flowgo.com spam engine. 20020218. Blocked by blacklist-admin@vsu.ru * SBL/spamhaus.org: 12.129.205/24: 553 SBL http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL5535 * SPEWS/spews.org: 12.129.205/24: 553 SPEWS2 [1] euniverse/yourbigvote, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S1677 * BLARS/block.blars.org: INET 127.3.8.32 * INTERSIL/flowgo.bulk: Flowgo/Euniverse/media synergy/etc.; http://www.cauce.org/incidents/flonetwork.com/index.shtml; 2001May01; dig TXT netlist.flowgoaway.com for CIDR list * FIVETEN/flonetwork.com.bulk: UNKNOWN TXT (permfail,nodata)
I mean, to me this is a no brainer to list. :)
--Chris (I'm annoying sometimes!)
Yup... but anyway, I concord with Jeff & Steven... SURBL is a list of domains that ONLY appeared in SPAM and NEVER appeared in HAM for whatever definition of HAM a luser MAY have...
I'd gladly blow flowgo away the Internet, but as long as only one of the lusers of a very large ISP where I have MailScanner+SA+SURBL configured complains that a mail he solicited (because he is completely stupid) got blocked, I have a headache...
This is, I think, one more of the reasons to have the 'unconfirmed' graylist available that we're talking about in another thread right now...
On Thursday, September 2, 2004, 8:25:40 AM, Chris Santerre wrote:
From: Jeff Chan [mailto:jeffc@surbl.org]
euniverse is not squeeky clean.
Never said they were. The question is do they have legitimate uses, and it sounds like the answer is yes.
Jeff C.
Did I ever send the RBL results for dietingplans.com?
Results: Positive=9, Negative=21 (2004-09-01 19:09:48 UTC)
* @SPAM/spamsource: 12.129.205/24: 553 SPAM,BULK ATT mail3051.flowgo.comspecial@intelligentx.com 2002-04; SBL http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL5535; SPEWS [1] euniverse/yourbigvote, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S1 * AHBL/dnsbl.ahbl.org: 12.129.205/24: 553 AHBL Spam Source; AHBL Open Proxy [Details] * AUDNSBL/dnsbl.net.au: 12.129.205/24: 553 AUDNSBL Multiple Spam Traps Block List [Remove] * DRBL/drbl.all: 12.129.205/24: 553 DRBL weight: 1.4; vote.drbl.sandy.ru@ns.sci-nnov.ru/0.6 vote.drbl.vsu.ru@ns.vsu.ru/0.8; flowgo.com; flowgo.com spam engine. 20020218. Blocked by blacklist-admin@vsu.ru * SBL/spamhaus.org: 12.129.205/24: 553 SBL http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL5535 * SPEWS/spews.org: 12.129.205/24: 553 SPEWS2 [1] euniverse/yourbigvote, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S1677 * BLARS/block.blars.org: INET 127.3.8.32 * INTERSIL/flowgo.bulk: Flowgo/Euniverse/media synergy/etc.; http://www.cauce.org/incidents/flonetwork.com/index.shtml; 2001May01; dig TXT netlist.flowgoaway.com for CIDR list * FIVETEN/flonetwork.com.bulk: UNKNOWN TXT (permfail,nodata)
I mean, to me this is a no brainer to list. :)
--Chris (I'm annoying sometimes!)
To me the question is: does it have legitimate uses? Does anyone actually sign up for their, uh, stuff? In the case of other Euniverse junk, the answer seems yes.
Jeff C.
Jeff Chan wrote:
To me the question is: does it have legitimate uses? Does anyone actually sign up for their, uh, stuff? In the case of other Euniverse junk, the answer seems yes.
I subscribed to one of their lists (Infobeat Finance) in 1997 and still receive it, though I don't normally read it these days.
Joe
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