Got some more FPs from hams:
/home/gorilla/black-gorilla-8_04.txt:servebeer.com
/web/antispam/outblaze.domains.sort:pacmanhattan.com
/web/antispam/mailsecurity.spam.domains:romp.com /home/prolocation/black-prolocation-master:romp.com
These all seem to have legitimate uses to me.
servebeer.com belongs to dynamic DNS provider No-IP.com so obviously it's subject to some abuse, but it also seems to have legitimate uses.
pacmanhattan.com is apparently a university student project to play Pacman on city steets with people.
romp.com appears to be a National Lampoon movie site.
I'd like to whitelist all of these but would like to hear from Chris, David, Outblaze and Raymond about why they listed them. None have SBL hits. romp and pacman have no NANAS, and as expected serverbeer has 29 NANAS.
The full list from the 5 source hams includes the three probable FPs above and some others which are not in SURBLs, but which should probably be whitelisted since they appear in things like Debian Linux newsletters.
catb.org debian.org debianforum.de ffii.org gnu.org harddisk-recovery.nl heise.de infodrom.org kitenet.net leidenuniv.nl linuxtag.org opensource.org pacmanhattan.com romp.com servebeer.com spi-inc.org uu.nl wallsplash.net xtronics.com
Comments please,
Jeff C. -- "If it appears in hams, then don't list it."
Jeff Chan wrote:
Got some more FPs from hams:
/home/gorilla/black-gorilla-8_04.txt:servebeer.com
/web/antispam/outblaze.domains.sort:pacmanhattan.com
/web/antispam/mailsecurity.spam.domains:romp.com /home/prolocation/black-prolocation-master:romp.com
These all seem to have legitimate uses to me.
servebeer.com belongs to dynamic DNS provider No-IP.com so obviously it's subject to some abuse, but it also seems to have legitimate uses.
pacmanhattan.com is apparently a university student project to play Pacman on city steets with people.
romp.com appears to be a National Lampoon movie site.
I'd like to whitelist all of these but would like to hear from Chris, David, Outblaze and Raymond about why they listed them. None have SBL hits. romp and pacman have no NANAS, and as expected serverbeer has 29 NANAS.
The full list from the 5 source hams includes the three probable FPs above and some others which are not in SURBLs, but which should probably be whitelisted since they appear in things like Debian Linux newsletters.
catb.org debian.org debianforum.de ffii.org gnu.org harddisk-recovery.nl heise.de infodrom.org kitenet.net leidenuniv.nl linuxtag.org opensource.org pacmanhattan.com romp.com servebeer.com spi-inc.org uu.nl wallsplash.net xtronics.com
Comments please,
the .de are very ugly FPs, especially heise ...... wow
Alex
On Monday, October 4, 2004, 6:17:09 AM, Alex Broens wrote:
Jeff Chan wrote:
catb.org debian.org debianforum.de ffii.org gnu.org harddisk-recovery.nl heise.de infodrom.org kitenet.net leidenuniv.nl linuxtag.org opensource.org pacmanhattan.com romp.com servebeer.com spi-inc.org uu.nl wallsplash.net xtronics.com
the .de are very ugly FPs, especially heise ...... wow
Actually to clarify, that's the full list that appeared in hams that had some FPs, but the FPs were only the first three:
servebeer.com belongs to dynamic DNS provider No-IP.com so obviously it's subject to some abuse, but it also seems to have legitimate uses.
pacmanhattan.com is apparently a university student project to play Pacman on city steets with people.
romp.com appears to be a National Lampoon movie site.
In other words those other domains appeared in messages that had the three FPs. The others are not FPs, but probably should be whitelisted since they appeared in things like legitimate Linux newsletters.
Hope this clarifies things.
Jeff C. -- "If it appears in hams, then don't list it."
On Monday, October 4, 2004, 5:53:58 AM, Jeff Chan wrote:
Got some more FPs from hams:
/home/gorilla/black-gorilla-8_04.txt:servebeer.com
/web/antispam/outblaze.domains.sort:pacmanhattan.com
/web/antispam/mailsecurity.spam.domains:romp.com /home/prolocation/black-prolocation-master:romp.com
These all seem to have legitimate uses to me.
servebeer.com belongs to dynamic DNS provider No-IP.com so obviously it's subject to some abuse, but it also seems to have legitimate uses.
pacmanhattan.com is apparently a university student project to play Pacman on city steets with people.
romp.com appears to be a National Lampoon movie site.
I'd like to whitelist all of these but would like to hear from Chris, David, Outblaze and Raymond about why they listed them. None have SBL hits. romp and pacman have no NANAS, and as expected serverbeer has 29 NANAS.
Thanks everyone for your comments on these confirming that the actual listed sites (the first three) all seem to have legitimate uses.
The full list from the 5 source hams includes the three probable FPs above and some others which are not in SURBLs, but which should probably be whitelisted since they appear in things like Debian Linux newsletters.
catb.org debian.org debianforum.de ffii.org gnu.org harddisk-recovery.nl heise.de infodrom.org kitenet.net leidenuniv.nl linuxtag.org opensource.org pacmanhattan.com romp.com servebeer.com spi-inc.org uu.nl wallsplash.net xtronics.com
The entire list seems hammy so I'm whitelisting them all, including the three FPs.
Jeff C. -- "If it appears in hams, then don't list it."
RE: QuickInspirations Samples
Jeff,
You asked a few days back for some "QuickInspirations" samples. I got some in today. I captured a small sampling of these (8 such messages). I probably deleted five times this many before I remembered to save some. Also, for privacy reasons, I'll be deleting this file off of my server in a couple of days.... so get it while you can.
http://www.pvsys.com/quickinspirations.zip
Rob McEwen
On Monday, October 4, 2004, 6:05:39 PM, Rob McEwen wrote:
You asked a few days back for some "QuickInspirations" samples. I got some in today. I captured a small sampling of these (8 such messages). I probably deleted five times this many before I remembered to save some. Also, for privacy reasons, I'll be deleting this file off of my server in a couple of days.... so get it while you can.
Are these examples of ham or spam?
Jeff C. -- "If it appears in hams, then don't list it."
RE: QuickInspirations Samples
Are these examples of ham or spam?
I'm certain they are spasm... but I guess no one can be absolutely 100% positive without asking the intended recipients? Also, I've been blocking these locally without any complaints from my clients. I suspect that the closest these could possibly be to ham would be if the client subscribed to something else and "receive other info" was in the fine print.... but even this would be questionable if the client didn't know how/why they were receiving these.
Also, I'm not officially voting for QuickInspirations.com to be added to SURBL. I'm just adding to the discussion. I recall recently several people saying "lets 'test the waters' by adding it to SURBL and then see if anyone complains". A more modest proposal would be to get everyone who frequents this list to add it to their local block lists and then report back as to whether they get any complaints.
Rob McEwen
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