Discuss July 2004

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RE: SPAM: Phishing attempt?
by Chris Santerre 27 Jul '04

27 Jul '04

>-----Original Message----- >From: kriston(a)MOUSE-WORKS.COM [mailto:kriston@MOUSE-WORKS.COM] >Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 3:29 AM >To: SPAM-L(a)PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >Subject: Re: SPAM: Phishing attempt? > > >On 26 Jul 2004 at 1:07, David Smith <dbsmith(a)ATBBS.DYNDNS.ORG> wrote: > >> 01o.com belongs to Britemoon, Inc. A quick websearch brings up >> mentions of Britemoon as a spammer, which is why I'm wondering >> if Qwest might not have hired them for this. Is it common for a >> known spammer to go into the phishing business? > >According to here, http://www.britemoon.com/about/index3.html, >Qwest is >one of their clients. Britemoon probably does their email >marketing. I >came across the same thing with Consumer Reports when I confirmed that >they were using a DoubleClick subsidiary to do their "email >marketing", >aka spamming. > NANAS has lots of hits for this guy. Joe Lucas. He send UBE/UCE on behalf of large businesses like Days Inn, Fedex, Qwest, ect....... But it is spam, as they buy lists to send to and there is no opt-in. Not even close to double opt-in :) --Chris

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Make Test Failure
by Ray Dzek 26 Jul '04

26 Jul '04

Is this failure significant? Or can I proceed with the make install? Redhat 8 on 1.4Ghz Celeron with 768MB of RAM. Perl 5.8. Latest Net::DNS installed prior to install of SURBL. Thanks in advance. PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t t/blacklist........ok t/dnsrbl...........ok t/mailto...........ok t/open_redirect....NOK 3# Failed test (t/open_redirect.t at line 35) t/open_redirect....NOK 4# Failed test (t/open_redirect.t at line 37) t/open_redirect....ok 5/8# Looks like you failed 2 tests of 8. t/open_redirect....dubious Test returned status 2 (wstat 512, 0x200) DIED. FAILED tests 3-4 Failed 2/8 tests, 75.00% okay t/spamcopuri.......ok t/whitelist........ok Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail Failed List of Failed ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- t/open_redirect.t 2 512 8 2 25.00% 3-4 Failed 1/6 test scripts, 83.33% okay. 2/30 subtests failed, 93.33% okay. make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 29 Ray Dzek Network Operations Supervisor Specialized Bicycle Components

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RE: [SURBL-Discuss] Make Test Failure
by Chris Santerre 26 Jul '04

26 Jul '04

>-----Original Message----- >From: Ray Dzek [mailto:rdzek@specialized.com] >Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:47 PM >To: discuss(a)lists.surbl.org >Subject: [SURBL-Discuss] Make Test Failure > > >Is this failure significant? Or can I proceed with the make install? > Proceed! Known issue, and no big deal. Go ahead with your bad self, and make install. --Chris (Feeling much better now, lookout! (: )

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RE: [SURBL-Discuss] {Spam?} RE: someone found a way to beat SURBL
by Chris Santerre 26 Jul '04

26 Jul '04

>-----Original Message----- >From: Rob McEwen [mailto:webmaster@powerviewsystems.com] >Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 10:11 PM >To: 'Jeff Chan'; 'SURBL Discussion list' >Subject: [SURBL-Discuss] {Spam?} RE: someone found a way to beat SURBL >Importance: High > > >RE: someone found a way to beat SURBL > >They take the following url: > >http://google.info/url?q= > >and follow this by their own URL HTMLEncoded > >The trick is for the parser to be able to find and decode this >HTMLEncoded >url when gathering URLs for checking against SURBL. > >I purposely did not send this to the discussion group because >I didn't want >this to be "out there" for spammers to know about. However, it >would be good >for the various "parser writers" for the various software >programs that work >with SURBL to be aware of this. > >Rob McEwen >PowerView Systems >rob(a)PowerViewSystems.com >(478) 475-9032 > Standard redirect technique, which there is a SARE rule for and SA 3.0 will nail this no problem. --Chris

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Jeff's whitelists
by William Stearns 26 Jul '04

26 Jul '04

Good evening, Jeff, I wanted to check in with you about some domains removed because of your whitelists. There are a few in particular I wanted to cover. gevalia.com and joingevalia.com: gevalia does a _lot_ of spam. nutrisystem.com: again, a lot of recent spam, just done with a bulk marketing firm as a front. spamarrest.com: spammers themselves Any sense on the above? Cheers, - Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Hackers do not feel that leisure time is automatically any more meaningful than work time. The desirability of both depends on how they are realized. From the point of a view of a meaningful life, the entire work/leisure duality must be abandoned. As long as we are living our work or our leisure, we are not even truly living. Meaning cannot be found in work or leisure but has to arise out of the nature of the activity itself. Out of passion. Social value. Creativity." -- Andrew Leonard <aleonard(a)salon.com> http://salon.com/tech/col/leon/2001/02/05/hacker_ethic/index2.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------- William Stearns (wstearns(a)pobox.com). Mason, Buildkernel, freedups, p0f, rsync-backup, ssh-keyinstall, dns-check, more at: http://www.stearns.org --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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RFC: Drop multi.surbl.org rbldnsd TTL?
by Jeff Chan 26 Jul '04

26 Jul '04

Should we decrease the TTL on the rbldnsd version of multi.surbl.org? For some background on the issue, rbldnsd does not support setting individual TTLs per record for dnset type zones, so we could not set individual TTLs on the rbldnsd records in multi.surbl.org, so the TTL for all records in the rbldnsd version of multi are the default for the entire file which is currently 28800 (8 hours). Obviously that's quite a bit longer than the 90 minutes now used on ws or the 10 minutes for sc, so some multi/rbldnsd records may be longer-lived than their BIND versions. This is in conflict with the fact that we can and do set individual TTLs per record in the *BIND* version of multi. So a particular record in BIND multi versus rbldnsd multi may very likely have different TTLs, which is an asymmetry and somewhat inelegant. In other words a server that uses BIND may not give the same TTL for a given entry that an rbldnsd one would. One solution to this would be to drop the default rbldnsd TTL for multi to something short like 10 minutes to force them all to expire quickly. Does anyone have any thoughts about this? Would this result in a lot more DNS traffic in general? I could probably read the RFCs or source code, but does anyone know if DNS implementations cache negative hits to the default TTL. In other words if a new record gets added to a list, do caching name servers (that negatively cached it before, i.e., got queried and said "I don't have that") get the new record immediately or only after some TTL expires. Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:jeffc@surbl.org http://www.surbl.org/

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[SURBL-Discuss] {Spam?} FOLLOW-UP: someone found a way to beat SURBL
by Rob McEwen 26 Jul '04

26 Jul '04

FOLLOW-UP: someone found a way to beat SURBL Jeff, I said... "I purposely did not send this to the discussion group" I think I goofed and DID accidentally send that last message to the discussion group. Sorry about that. Perhaps you could intercept it and/or remove it. Sorry for the trouble. Thanks, Rob McEwen PowerView Systems rob(a)PowerViewSystems.com (478) 475-9032

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FP: blogonevent dot com
by Steven Champeon 26 Jul '04

26 Jul '04

FP on this domain in a post to sociate-talk. -- hesketh.com/inc. v: +1(919)834-2552 f: +1(919)834-2554 w: http://hesketh.com Buy "Cascading Style Sheets: Separating Content from Presentation, 2/e" today! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/159059231X/heskecominc-20/ref=nosim/

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www.allnewmessenger.com
by Bitz 25 Jul '04

25 Jul '04

Hello List, Somehow this URI http://www.allnewmessenger.com is listed at ob.surbl.org. >> Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! >> http://www.allnewmessenger.com Regards, -B

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FPs?
by Steven Champeon 24 Jul '04

24 Jul '04

fsbconferences.com, wedecide2004.com Both showed up in legit WITI mailing. -- hesketh.com/inc. v: +1(919)834-2552 f: +1(919)834-2554 w: http://hesketh.com Buy "Cascading Style Sheets: Separating Content from Presentation, 2/e" today! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/159059231X/heskecominc-20/ref=nosim/

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