Discuss August 2004

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RE: [SURBL-Discuss] More possible FPs
by Chris Santerre 20 Aug '04

20 Aug '04

Can't read russian: http://www.findaworkinnet.narod.ru/new.htm Lots of hits on NANAS for Narod.ru. But looks like the sites get taken down quick? Not sure if that is planned though. Russian ISPs aren't known for their fight against spam. And trafficzap.com appears in only a few NANAS posts. All of them also contain sitepronews.com. So there may be a connection there. --Chris >-----Original Message----- >From: Joseph Burford [mailto:joseph.burford@gmail.com] >Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 6:10 AM >To: discuss(a)lists.surbl.org >Subject: [SURBL-Discuss] More possible FPs > > >When the WS team get a moment they may like to have a look at why >trafficMUNGEDzap.com and narMUNGEDod.ru are listed. > >Saw them both in a legit mailing today, although they may not actually >be legit in themselves :-) > >Plain text http://www.ntjl.net/surbl/20040820-ws-fp.txt >HTML http://www.ntjl.net/surbl/20040820-ws-fp.html > >Regards, > >Joseph >_______________________________________________ >Discuss mailing list >Discuss(a)lists.surbl.org >http://lists.surbl.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >

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RE: [SURBL-Discuss] FP in WS!
by Chris Santerre 20 Aug '04

20 Aug '04

I didn't add, but: 1shoppingcart.com 1shoppingcart.net autocontactor.com marketerschoice.com unlimitedautoresponders.com wcpsecure.com webcontactpro.net all Robert Bell, a spammer. --Chris >-----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Chan [mailto:jeffc@surbl.org] >Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 6:36 AM >To: discuss(a)lists.surbl.org >Subject: Re: [SURBL-Discuss] FP in WS! > > >On Friday, August 20, 2004, 2:31:33 AM, Joseph Burford wrote: >> Howdy guys, > >> another FP for the WS guys to checkout. www.1shoppingcartMUNGED.com , >> appears to be list management for a valid list a customer has >> subscribed to. > >> Full text with minimal modification is at: > >> http://www.ntjl.net/surbl/20040819-ws-fp.txt > >OK I've whitelisted this domain. WS folks please see how it got >onto the list. > >Jeff C. > >_______________________________________________ >Discuss mailing list >Discuss(a)lists.surbl.org >http://lists.surbl.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >

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More possible FPs
by Joseph Burford 20 Aug '04

20 Aug '04

When the WS team get a moment they may like to have a look at why trafficMUNGEDzap.com and narMUNGEDod.ru are listed. Saw them both in a legit mailing today, although they may not actually be legit in themselves :-) Plain text http://www.ntjl.net/surbl/20040820-ws-fp.txt HTML http://www.ntjl.net/surbl/20040820-ws-fp.html Regards, Joseph

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MSGID_FROM_MTA_SHORT - scoring..
by Mark Thomas 20 Aug '04

20 Aug '04

Hi, Can any of you SA/Surbl gurus tell me where I can change the scoring of this rule? (I assume, probably incorrectly that this is a Surbl rule...) ;) The default of 3.3 is a bit high for this organisation and I would like to drop it down somewhat. Many thanks Mark

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[SURBL-Discuss] {Spam?} FW: ***SPAM*** (7.4/5.0) ** Someone with the intials L R must be declared...
by Larry Rosenman 20 Aug '04

20 Aug '04

Publishers Clearing House wrote: > Spam detection software, running on the system "lerami.lerctr.org", > has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original > message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't > spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see > ler(a)lerctr.org for details. > > Content preview: Someone with the intials L R must be declared... > Lawrence Rosenman L R Lawrence Rosenman: [...] > > Content analysis details: (7.4 points, 5.0 required) > > pts rule name description > ---- ---------------------- > -------------------------------------------------- > 1.7 SARE_OEM_FAKE_YEAR BODY: SARE_OEM_FAKE_YEAR > 1.6 UNCLAIMED_MONEY BODY: People just leave money laying > around > 0.7 SARE_MONEYTERMS BODY: Talks about money in some way. > 0.1 HTML_80_90 BODY: Message is 80% to 90% HTML > 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message > 0.0 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 40 to > 60% [score: 0.5000] > 0.1 HTML_FONT_BIG BODY: HTML tag for a big font size > 0.2 MIME_HTML_ONLY BODY: Message only has text/html MIME > parts > 3.0 URIBL_WS_SURBL Contains a URL listed in the WS SURBL > blocklist [URIs: pch.com] > > The original message was not completely plain text, and may be unsafe > to open with some email clients; in particular, it may contain a > virus, or confirm that your address can receive spam. If you wish to > view it, it may be safer to save it to a file and open it with an > editor. Why is PCH.COM on WS? They are (semi-)legit. LER -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler(a)lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749

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RE: survey-MUNGED.com (Was: Re: [SURBL-Discuss] {Spam?} FP in WS, OB)
by Chris Santerre 20 Aug '04

20 Aug '04

No hijack! Here was what his first post said: > 3.0 URIBL_WS_SURBL Contains a URL listed in the WS SURBL > blocklist [URIs: survey.com] > 4.0 URIBL_OB_SURBL Contains a URL listed in the OB SURBL > blocklist [URIs: messagingpipeline.com advancedippipeline.com > bizintelligencepipeline.com enterpriseappspipeline.com] Did you miss the survey part? ;) --Chris >-----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Chan [mailto:jeffc@surbl.org] >Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 5:14 PM >To: SURBL Discuss >Subject: survey-MUNGED.com (Was: Re: [SURBL-Discuss] {Spam?} FP in >WS,OB) > > >On Thursday, August 19, 2004, 2:05:18 PM, Chris Santerre wrote: >> But what about survery-munged.com? I feel they are spammers. >But I'm open to >> discussion :) > >LOL! Nice hij@ck! > >I'm still waiting to hear whether they appear in any >legitimate messages. Does venteinc.com have any >legitimate customers? > >Jeff C. > >_______________________________________________ >Discuss mailing list >Discuss(a)lists.surbl.org >http://lists.surbl.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >

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Announcing the Spamtrappers list
by jm＠jmason.org 20 Aug '04

20 Aug '04

Hi all -- It occurred to me recently that maybe quite a lot of the innards of spamtrap systems are being kept more secret than they need to be, and a public mailing list for spamtrap operators would be well worthwhile. There's a number of things that would be improved through sharing our techniques, suggestions, possibly even data -- - new scaling mechanisms; - what to do with all that spam - where to report, ways to analyze it, etc.; - new protocols for dealing effectively with massive quantities of spam - for example, using SMTP to deliver spamtrap data is not necessarily required, since reliability isn't as important for spam forwarding as it is for ham, considering the volumes; - an "open source" approach to the problem; there's currently a lot of secrecy, and probably more than is really required (as long as we don't spill the beans on what domains and addresses we're collecting from). Being able to share thoughts can be very useful, esp. when someone notices some new spammer behaviour. The list info and subscription page is here: http://lists.taint.org/mailman/listinfo/spamtrappers/ --j.

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RE: [SURBL-Discuss] {Spam?} FP in WS,OB
by Chris Santerre 19 Aug '04

19 Aug '04

>-----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Chan [mailto:jeffc@surbl.org] >Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 4:46 PM >To: discuss(a)lists.surbl.org >Cc: postmaster(a)outblaze.com >Subject: Re: [SURBL-Discuss] {Spam?} FP in WS,OB > > >On Thursday, August 19, 2004, 1:21:52 PM, Larry Rosenman wrote: >> Storage Pipeline Newsletter wrote: >>> Spam detection software, running on the system "lerami.lerctr.org", >>> has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original >>> message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't >>> spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see >>> ler(a)lerctr.org for details. >>> >>> Content preview: STORAGE PIPELINE NEWSLETTER >>> http://www.StoragePipeline.com/ Thursday, August 19, 2004 1. >>> Editor's Note 2. Only The Best Storage News 3. Special Report: >>> Microsoft's Next Storage Play 4. Storage Spotlight: >Hewlett-Packard >>> In Turmoil 5. Check Some Boxes, Win $500 6. Top Trend: Study Shows >>> Bright Future For Utility Computing 7. FUDBusters: Serial ATA >>> Storage Drives 8. Voting Booth: SMI-S Purchasing Plans 9. Discover >>> NAS Appliances In Product Finder 10. Check Out The >Storage Pipeline >>> Topic Centers - Storage Software - Storage Hardware - SAN/NAS - >>> Storage Services 11. Tell A Colleague About Storage Pipeline >>> Newsletter 12. Have You Discovered The Other Pipelines? 13. >>> Subscribe To The Storage Pipeline RSS Feed >>> 14. Change Your Subscription Options [...] >>> >>> Content analysis details: (8.3 points, 5.0 required) >>> >>> pts rule name description >>> ---- ---------------------- >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> -0.4 BAYES_05 BODY: Bayesian spam probability >is 1 to 5% >>> [score: 0.0377] >>> 1.7 RCVD_IN_RFC_IPWHOIS RBL: Sent via a relay in >>> ipwhois.rfc-ignorant.org [$ has >>> inaccurate or missing WHOIS data at the] >>> [RIR] >>> 3.0 URIBL_WS_SURBL Contains a URL listed in the WS SURBL >>> blocklist [URIs: survey.com] >>> 4.0 URIBL_OB_SURBL Contains a URL listed in the OB SURBL >>> blocklist [URIs: messagingpipeline.com advancedippipeline.com >>> bizintelligencepipeline.com enterpriseappspipeline.com] > >> This is from the CMP storagepipline list. > >> Why are they on OB? And also WS? > >OB had: > >advancedippipeline.com >bizintelligencepipeline.com >enterpriseappspipeline.com >messagingpipeline.com > >I've whitelisted those all and also: > >storagepipeline.com > >All belong to CMP Media, a large and legitimate tech publisher. > >The domains do not appear in WS. > > >Outblaze, >Please consider not blocking on these also. > >Jeff C. But what about survery-munged.com? I feel they are spammers. But I'm open to discussion :) --Chris

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{Spam?} FP in WS,OB
by Larry Rosenman 19 Aug '04

19 Aug '04

Storage Pipeline Newsletter wrote: > Spam detection software, running on the system "lerami.lerctr.org", > has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original > message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't > spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see > ler(a)lerctr.org for details. > > Content preview: STORAGE PIPELINE NEWSLETTER > http://www.StoragePipeline.com/ Thursday, August 19, 2004 1. > Editor's Note 2. Only The Best Storage News 3. Special Report: > Microsoft's Next Storage Play 4. Storage Spotlight: Hewlett-Packard > In Turmoil 5. Check Some Boxes, Win $500 6. Top Trend: Study Shows > Bright Future For Utility Computing 7. FUDBusters: Serial ATA > Storage Drives 8. Voting Booth: SMI-S Purchasing Plans 9. Discover > NAS Appliances In Product Finder 10. Check Out The Storage Pipeline > Topic Centers - Storage Software - Storage Hardware - SAN/NAS - > Storage Services 11. Tell A Colleague About Storage Pipeline > Newsletter 12. Have You Discovered The Other Pipelines? 13. > Subscribe To The Storage Pipeline RSS Feed > 14. Change Your Subscription Options [...] > > Content analysis details: (8.3 points, 5.0 required) > > pts rule name description > ---- ---------------------- > -------------------------------------------------- > -0.4 BAYES_05 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 1 to 5% > [score: 0.0377] > 1.7 RCVD_IN_RFC_IPWHOIS RBL: Sent via a relay in > ipwhois.rfc-ignorant.org [$ has > inaccurate or missing WHOIS data at the] > [RIR] > 3.0 URIBL_WS_SURBL Contains a URL listed in the WS SURBL > blocklist [URIs: survey.com] > 4.0 URIBL_OB_SURBL Contains a URL listed in the OB SURBL > blocklist [URIs: messagingpipeline.com advancedippipeline.com > bizintelligencepipeline.com enterpriseappspipeline.com] This is from the CMP storagepipline list. Why are they on OB? And also WS? -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler(a)lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749

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ws.surbl.org entry lag
by Alex Broens 19 Aug '04

19 Aug '04

Jeff, Bill has mentioned that he updates the ws.surbl.org data every 15 minutes. how often/hour is this data loaded into the ws.surbl.org zone? Thanks Alex

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