Discuss August 2004

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Strange happenings...
by Bill Landry 19 Aug '04

19 Aug '04

Can anyone explain why this particular URI gets tagged by WS when none of the other URIs in the message (including several others from g.msn.com) get tagged: http://g.msn.MUNGEDcom/0NL34044/2531 Must be something about this particular URI string that causes the parser to handle it differently. If someone wants to see the message this URI came from, let me know and I'll send it to you. Bill

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hat check
by Chris Santerre 18 Aug '04

18 Aug '04

With all this talk of spanking people for adding FPs, I'm not sure if I should be careful, or buy some beer and nachos and wait to be spanked ;) Anywho, I need a check on these guys: cwiservices.com Spank you very much, --Chris (The guy without AIM or ICQ!)

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RE: [SURBL-Discuss] FP in ws.surbl.org domeus_REMOVE.com / domeus _REMOVE.es
by Chris Santerre 18 Aug '04

18 Aug '04

>-----Original Message----- >From: Mariano Absatz [mailto:el.baby@gmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 2:00 AM >To: SURBL Discussion list >Subject: [SURBL-Discuss] FP in ws.surbl.org domeus_REMOVE.com / >domeus_REMOVE.es > > >Hi people, hi Bill... > >I just detected a FP in ws.surbl.org... and I was the one who >submitted the domains :-( > >It's 2 domains: domeus_REMOVE.com / domeus_REMOVE.es > >It seems to be some kind of public list server with little control >about what their users/customers subscribe. > >I'll look in my spamcan for the offending messages and will try to >contact them to see if they do something about those customers. > >But I got the FP from a message forwarded from a completely legit >mailing list, so I guess our policy should lead us to remove those >domains from the list. > >I'll see what I can do tomorrow... I'm finishing putting in production >MailScanner+SpamAssassin+SURBL in a mid-sized ISP... it's 3:00 AM, I >haven't slept a wink, I broke a leg last week and my Doctor insists on >opening it before this weekend to get the bone nailed in place... I >won't be able to walk on my feet for a month and a half :-( > >Regards. Bah! We get guys in hockey get injuries like that all the time. You will be back next season! They always come back! Muahahahahahahahah :) --Chris (Physical contact sport freak!)

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RE: [SURBL-Discuss] Re: FP from WS
by Chris Santerre 18 Aug '04

18 Aug '04

Hell yeah! These didn't come from me or Steve! Oh that feels good to say! Of course, I haven't checked all my SURBL emails yet :) --Chris >-----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Chan [mailto:jeffc@surbl.org] >Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:19 PM >To: discuss(a)lists.surbl.org >Subject: [SURBL-Discuss] Re: FP from WS > > >On Tuesday, August 17, 2004, 4:33:21 PM, Larry Rosenman wrote: >> The following 2 URIs (and possibly a third) are FP's: > >> i-say-MUNGED.com >> Surveynetworks-MUNGED.com > >> And possibly >> Itracks-MUNGED.com > >> i-say-MUNGED is the IPSOS survey site, and seems legit, and >> surveynetworks-MUNGED >> Is a collection of them. > >> I'm not 100% certain of itracks-MUNGED, but please check. > >> These are all on WS. > >Thanks Larry, >I checked them a little and they all look at least >quasi-legitimate, so I whitelisted them all, plus some >related domains: > >itracks.com >ipsos-reid.com >i-say.com >venteinc.com >surveynetworks.com > >We need to ask the ws folks how these are getting in >and how we can stop them from doing so. > >Jeff C. > >_______________________________________________ >Discuss mailing list >Discuss(a)lists.surbl.org >http://lists.surbl.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >

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RE: [SURBL-Discuss] cdbaby.com fp whitelisted
by Chris Santerre 18 Aug '04

18 Aug '04

I submitted from Ryan's submission. But I did check it and it looked spammy. Also had a bunch of NANAS hits, and not just one. I see a pattern of legit sites possibly being con'd by sleezy marketers. Causing them to be listed. It will probably happen in the future despite our best efforts. We can minimise of course. But if the domain is unfamiliar, looks kind of spammy (cdbaby, come one now!), has multiple NANAS or NANAE hits, is reported to be spamming, then most likely it will get listed. I had no doubts when I listed this. I'm still only going by what Jeff has said. But I don't go by what companies quote on there website. Everything Jeff quoted I've seen before on known spam sites. If a site has multiple reports on NANAS, from different people, over a stretch of time, then you bet it sends red flags up for me! I removed then and will update file. --Chris >-----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Chan [mailto:jeffc@surbl.org] >Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 6:08 PM >To: SURBL Discuss >Subject: [SURBL-Discuss] cdbaby.com fp whitelisted > > >cdbaby.com was on ws. I've whitelisted it along with a couple >others: > >_______________________________________________ >Discuss mailing list >Discuss(a)lists.surbl.org >http://lists.surbl.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >

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Re: [SURBL-Discuss] FP in ws.surbl.org domeus_REMOVE.com /domeus_REMOVE.es
by Jeff Chan 18 Aug '04

18 Aug '04

On Wednesday, August 18, 2004, 12:14:26 AM, Joe Wein wrote: >> Thanks, I've whitelisted: >> >> domeus.com >> domeus.es > Could you whitelist domeus.de also, just in case. I run a mailing list on > that service. > They are rumoured to have some problems, but basically are legitimate. Thanks, I've whitelisted the domains on their main page: ecircle-ag.com domeus.com domeus.de domeus.co.uk domeus.es domeus.fr domeus.it Jeff C.

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FP from WS
by Larry Rosenman 18 Aug '04

18 Aug '04

The following 2 URIs (and possibly a third) are FP's: i-say-MUNGED.com Surveynetworks-MUNGED.com And possibly Itracks-MUNGED.com i-say-MUNGED is the IPSOS survey site, and seems legit, and surveynetworks-MUNGED Is a collection of them. I'm not 100% certain of itracks-MUNGED, but please check. These are all on WS. -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler(a)lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749

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[SURBL-Discuss] FP in ws.surbl.org domeus_REMOVE.com / domeus_REMOVE.es
by Mariano Absatz 18 Aug '04

18 Aug '04

Hi people, hi Bill... I just detected a FP in ws.surbl.org... and I was the one who submitted the domains :-( It's 2 domains: domeus_REMOVE.com / domeus_REMOVE.es It seems to be some kind of public list server with little control about what their users/customers subscribe. I'll look in my spamcan for the offending messages and will try to contact them to see if they do something about those customers. But I got the FP from a message forwarded from a completely legit mailing list, so I guess our policy should lead us to remove those domains from the list. I'll see what I can do tomorrow... I'm finishing putting in production MailScanner+SpamAssassin+SURBL in a mid-sized ISP... it's 3:00 AM, I haven't slept a wink, I broke a leg last week and my Doctor insists on opening it before this weekend to get the bone nailed in place... I won't be able to walk on my feet for a month and a half :-( Regards. -- Mariano Absatz - El Baby el (dot) baby (AT) gmail (dot) com el (punto) baby (ARROBA:@) gmail (punto) com

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ya.com likely FP in WS
by Patrik Nilsson 18 Aug '04

18 Aug '04

ya.com is listed in WS. I can't find any recent NANAS reports where the domain is used in uri's. They seem to be an ISP, with the domain showing up in footers in legit mail when their webmail service is used. Patrik

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cdbaby.com fp whitelisted
by Jeff Chan 18 Aug '04

18 Aug '04

cdbaby.com was on ws. I've whitelisted it along with a couple others: cdbaby.com hostbaby.com hitmedia.com This site claims to be the largest seller of independent musician CDs on the web: http://www.cdbaby.com/about > * In business, and thriving, since March 1998. We're the > largest seller of independent CDs on the web. [...] > Current Numbers: > > * 69,591 artists sell their CD at CD Baby. > * 1,129,709 CDs sold online to customers. > * $9,041,358.43 paid to artists. > > CD Baby Privacy Policy > > * We NEVER give or sell your personal info to any other > company - EVER! (No not even your email address!) > * Only the musician whose CD you buy will know who you are. > * If you don't even want the musician to know about you, > just say so at the bottom of your order form. There's no way this domain should ever have been listed, even if one of the artists using it DID spam. ws folks please trace this one back. We don't want more like this. Is anyone researching these before they get added? Even a cursory glance at their web page would show them to probably be legitimate. We really need to try to eliminate FPs or they will hurt the project. Jeff C.

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