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Re: [Uribl-discuss] Fw: Requesting Your Permission or "Why Mardev and Outward Media should be RBL Listed"
by Kevin A. McGrail 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

> When the legislation was first passed we did support opt out for B2B, > small business who for the first time can trade with big business on an > equal footing would have been slaughtered. > > We fully anticipate however that opt in legislation is on the cards and > have adopted that policy from day one. Do you not understand that these two statements are mutually exclusive? How can you possibly promote the legal changes for opt-out and then claim a policy of opt-in from day one? Small business don't deserve to be able to SPAM business just because they aren't large. As far as I'm concerned Mardev was principally involved in passing the convoluted law to being with making you a two-faced, wish-washy, snake-oil selling salesperson hiding behind laws and blowing wherever the winds take you. However, if Mardev doesn't actually send B2B opt-out emails, then I imagine you won't end up on an RBL. But if you do, expect to be submitted for listing in a heartbeat. KAM

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Re: [Uribl-discuss] Fw: Requesting Your Permission or "Why Mardev and Outward Media should be RBL Listed"
by Kevin A. McGrail 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

> We collect 100% of our emails by opt in and document every permission. > And, if you had read anything I have written you would know that I > recommend that all other companies follow this policy and go beyond the > legislation. > > We do no mass broadcasting. A typical communication would be an email to a > farmer who has told us that he has pigs, receiving a notification about a > swine flu inoculation. Really? While this might be a personal position, the evidence again Mardev available from a simple web search does NOT agree. "Mardev is the list management division of Reed Business Information (RBI), the world's largest business information supplier. We specialize in business-to-business (B2B) lists for direct marketing campaigns. Our lists cover all market sectors including manufacturing, mining, entertainment, finance, media, building & construction & travel. We have access to over 300 B2B databases worldwide, including 300,000 Australian records." >From the Department of Trade and Industry in the UK, you even supported changing the law in the UK asking that the law allow B2B SPAM without consent based on the opt-out principle: http://www.silicon.com/research/specialreports/thespamreport/0,39025001,391… "We have reviewed the responses in detail to ensure that we provide you with an accurate list and have found that six organisations supported opt-out for business-to-business direct marketing emails." Those six organisations, according to the DTI, were Cable & Wireless, Information & Research Services, Holiday-Rentals.com, Mardev, Masterclass and Taylor Wessing. So, as I understand it, no only is it legal in the UK to use opt-out b2b mailing practices but your firm helped change the law for this. And your firm directly utilizes AND advertises based on this loophole: http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/cgi/news/release?id=140795 DecisionMaker Portrait allows marketers to identify the contacts available within DecisionMaker - Mardev's business targeting database of over 2.8m named UK records - that are most likely to respond to their proposition. The model offers a sophisticated method of selecting prospects that will significantly improve response rates and win more business. Is what you are doing legal, sure. Is it spam? In my opinion, yes. KAM

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btassets.co.uk
by Phil (Medway Hosting) 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

Hi folks Could someone from surbl kindly give me an idea of what the problem is with btassets.co.uk please ? I am currently having a major row with them, but have actually achieved getting their Chairman's Dept interested - mainly because I have told them the abuse I am seeing will be chargeable at £50 +vat per email and they have already attempted to deliver 250 !! Any info would be useful. Many thanks Phil _____________________________________________ Website Hosting from only £5.00 per month. www.medwayhosting.com - +44 (0)1634 856965 _____________________________________________ Digital & Traditional Printing, and much more www.medwayprint.com - +44 (0)1634 281199 _____________________________________________

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Fw: Requesting Your Permission
by Kevin A. McGrail 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

HITN ConfirmationBelow is an email I received, purportedly on behalf of Avis from a company called Outward Media. Does anyone know if this is a legit firm? To me it looks potentially legit but that Avis has given the marketing duties to a questionable firm. For example, I haven't used the email address below in close to 4 years! Anyone ever heard of csmarketingmail.com or Outward Media? They claim to be CAN-SPAM compliant but, as written before, this isn't a legal issue as much as a consent issue. And from the info at http://www.outwardmedia.com/b2b.html, it looks to me like they mine data: Domain match - Our proprietary software process generates primary corporate email address at 8.5 million companies using associated email domain and historically accurate email domain pattern. Thoughts? Regards, KAM ----- Original Message ----- From: Outward Media To: kmcgrail(a)peregrinehw.com Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 3:12 PM Subject: Requesting Your Permission Dear subscriber, Outward Media, Inc. (OMI) is an email marketing agency. OMI is asking your permission to send you special offers from Avis Rent A Car via e-mail. Avis strives to make it easier for you to do business with them and they would like to provide you with relevant and valuable information about their services, as well as special promotions designed to help meet your business travel needs. While we find the majority of people appreciate receiving this information, you may request to be excluded from future Avis mailings. You may unsubscribe by clicking the following link: Unsubscribe Please do not reply to this e-mail. OMI provides CAN-SPAM compliant email services. If you opt not to recieve business emails from Avis, your email address will be removed from the file within 10 business days of opting-out. You can learn more about Avis online at www.avis.com Thank you for the opportunity to share information with you.. Sincerely, Outward Media Inc. 9229 Sunset Boulevard, Suite 306, Los Angeles, CA 90069 www.outwardmedia.com This email message is on behalf of: Avis World Headquarters 6 Sylvan Way Parsippany, NJ 07054 (973) 496-3500 .

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Re: Strange blacklisting
by Jeff Chan 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

On Sunday, April 15, 2007, 6:22:58 PM, AshtonWood AshtonWood wrote: > Hi there, > It has come to our attention that our domain securestix.com may have ended > up on a "Blacklist" of yours recently. > This may have been from our most recent once-only mail out to a list > supplied by the organisers of a trade show we recently exhibited at. > We've checked all of your lists in surbl.org, but cant find out domain in > there, yet the messages we are receiving indicate that surbl.org is the > group blacklisting us. > Can you please have a look and advise if we are in fact blacklisted? > You can call me directly to discuss if required. > Ashton Wood > Director > Ph: 0412 281 900 > Intl: +61 412 281 900 Please send all removal requests to whitelist at surbl. org as described in the removal instructions at: http://www.surbl.org/lists.html#removal Jeff C. -- Don't harm innocent bystanders.

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Difficulty with rsync information change request
by Bryan K Walton 03 Feb '07

03 Feb '07

Hi guys, I'm curious if anybody can help me with some problems we are having with our rsync access. We currently have rsync access for our mailserver. But we have since built a new mailserver that currently sits in front of the one with rsync access. We would like to change our rsync access from this existing server to the new one, as we will be taking the old one down soon and do not currently have an estimate for when it will come back online. Over the last two months, I requested rsync access for this new box a total of four times (two requests on the surbl.org website, and the other two as direct emails to the email address that gave us the original access, an account belonging to a Raymond Dijkxhoorn). Anyway, we have heard nothing back about our request. Is there anybody on this list who can assist me in this change? Thanks, Bryan Walton Machlink.com

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List of URL redirectors and Perl code to parse them?
by Kelly Jones 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

I know that rd.yahoo.com (for example) is a URL redirector that spammers use to get around SURBL. I also know that if I see a URL like rd.yahoo.com/?http://foo.bar.com, I should actually lookup bar.com.multi.surbl.org. Not all redirectors are this simple: some allow MIME-encoding or %-encoding of the target URL, others use different characters to separate the target URL from the redirector, etc. Is there a fairly complete list of URL redirectors I could use, along with code (ideally Perl code) that converts/de-obfuscates "redirector URL" to "target URL"? -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile.

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Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Why is multi's rsync file so large?
by Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems) 11 Jan '07

11 Jan '07

> You can easily strip it out the text field with sed, awk, cut, > perl, grep, etc. Remove the text before you load the zone into > rbldnsd, for example as a filter in your rsync cron job (scheduler). Thanks Jeff! I'm looking into this now! Rob McEwen PowerView Systems rob(a)PowerViewSystems.com

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Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Local Caching Name Server
by Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems) 11 Jan '07

11 Jan '07

I recommend TreeWalk. Upon installation, it defaults to a caching name server. SEE: http://ntcanuck.com/ Rob McEwen PowerView Systems rob(a)PowerViewSystems.com -----Original message----- From: Jeff Chan jeffc(a)surbl.org Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 03:10:35 -0500 To: Max Yang onmywayup(a)hotmail.com Subject: Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Local Caching Name Server > On Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 10:12:32 PM, Max Yang wrote: > > Hi > > > I want to set up a local caching name server, in a Windows XP Pro box > > How could I do it? > > Max > > I found this using google: > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/c24621675.mspx > > Jeff C. > -- > Don't harm innocent bystanders. > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss(a)lists.surbl.org > http://lists.surbl.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >

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Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Local Caching Name Server
by Jeff Chan 11 Jan '07

11 Jan '07

On Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 11:04:54 PM, Max Yang wrote: > I don't think that it's an answer for my question OK maybe you want to run rbldnsd under Windows? Fortunately there is now a Windows port: http://www.itefix.no/wrbldnsd/ Jeff C. -- Don't harm innocent bystanders.

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