Good afternoon, Bill, BTW, thanks for your efforts in this. As someone mentioned earlier, please don't take requests for more information personally; deciding whether to whitelist someone is, at times, a tough process for all of us. Case in point:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Bill Landry wrote:
Okay, here we go again... ;-)
Domain, proflowers.MUNGEDcom is listed on WS.
===== Sending IP listed on two aggressive RBLs, otherwise looks clean: http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch?ip=198.31.62.30 ===== ===== Domain, proflowers.com, registered through Network Solutions and domain registered in early 1998: Record created on 04-Feb-1998 ===== ===== Address space owned by Level 3: [whois.arin.net] Level 3 Communications, Inc. LVLT-ORG-198-31 (NET-198-31-0-0-1) 198.31.0.0 - 198.31.255.255
Subnet delegated to: Double Click DOUBLECLICK7-62-28 (NET-198-31-62-0-1) 198.31.62.0 - 198.31.63.255 RegDate: 2003-03-28 ===== ===== No NANAS listings: References: [ Proflowers: 0 ] =====
Anything else needed for this one? :-\
I received an earlier inquiry from proflowers; here's my answer to them:
========== The emails I'm concerned about are the ones sent at Proflowers' request by email marketing companies. Between January 30th, 2002 and May 4th, 2004, I received 50 email messages marketing your products. Here are the subjects, duplicates removed:
Dozen Roses & FREE Chocolates ONLY $39.99! : DOZEN ROSES & FREE CHOCOLATES ONLY $39.99! =?646?Q?Dozen_Roses_Plus_a_Box_of_Ghirardelli_?= A dozen long-stemmed roses, only $29.99 with FREE Ghirardelli chocolates DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA DOZEN ROSES & CHOCOLATES ONLY $39.99! BY FedEx ON VALENTINE S DAY! Dozen Long-Stemmed Roses Plus a Free Box of Chocolates! Dozen Long-Stemmed Roses and Free Chocolates only $29.99! Dozen Roses & FREE Chocolates ONLY $29.99! Guaranteed Delivery! Dozen Roses & FREE Chocolates ONLY $39.99! Dozen Roses & FREE Chocolates ONLY $39.99! Dozen Roses Only $39.99 Plus a Free Box of Chocolates Dozen Roses Only $39.99 Plus a Free Box of Chocolates! Dozen Roses Only $39.99 Plus a Free Box of Chocolates! Dozen Roses and Box of Chocolates -- $39.99 (Hurry!) Dozen Roses and Free Chocolates Only $29.99 Dozen Roses and Ghirardelli Chocolates Only $39.99! Dozen Roses and a Box of Chocolates only $39.99 Dozen Roses and a Box of Ghirardelli Chocolates only $39.99! Dozen Roses for $39.99 Plus A Free Box of Chocolates! EASTER ROSES $29.99 + FREE CHOCOLATES! Flowers for Mom - Delivered from 29.99 Flowers for your special Mom Lock In Low Prices For Valentine's Day Flowers + Complimentary Glass Vase Mother's Day Flowers + Glass Vase only *$29.99* Mother's Day Flowers - Only $29.99 plus Complimentary Vase Mother's Day Roses for $39.99 with FREE Chocolate Remember Mom with a dozen long-stemmed roses, only $39.99 with free chocolate Rose Bouquets $39.99 with free chocolates! Roses for Mom, only $29.99 with FREE chocolates *OFFER ENDS MAY 3rd! Special MOTHER'S DAY LONG-STEMMED ROSES ONLY $29.99! FREE CHOCOLATES! Thanksgiving Roses for $29.99 w/Free Vase Thanksgiving flowers you must send The Perfect Mother?s Day Gift ? Fresh Fruit Baskets From $29.99 Valentine's Flowers from $29.99 + Beautiful Glass Vase Valentine's Roses Only $39.99 with a Box of Chocolates adv:Flowers & Free Chocolate - Last Chance
These messages came into my main address and a secondary address that could only have been harvested in a manner that violated the license agreement at the sole site where it was used (note, I'm not claiming your company did this, but the company supplying the addresses did). Neither address requested the mails or had any existing business relationship with your company. In my mind, these emails satisfy the conditions to be considered Unsolicited Bulk Email, and that satisfies the requirements for Proflowers and the intermediate marketing companies to be placed on a list of companies that send UBE. ==========
That said, I'm willing to consider removing them, especially if they're hitting false positives. Other opinions? Cheers, - Bill
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