On Sunday, April 11, 2004, 12:29:43 AM, Daniel Quinlan wrote:
Jeff Chan jeffc@surbl.org writes:
Can any 3.0 guys able to comment if I got the urirhsbl syntax correct:
It's correct, but you might not need to get it correct because the rule will likely ship with 3.0 when it is released if it seems to work well and it helps.
Let's hope that proves to be the case. :-)
Would you please do a spam and ham corpora check with "sa.surbl.org" whenever you can? We'd really like to know any false positives to remove if that's possible to determine.
I have a concern about the rule. Bill Stern's SpamAssassin blacklist is a blacklist *for* SpamAssassin, so I think the naming of your rule and the DNSBL name (sa.surbl.org) are unintentionally a bit misleading since the list is not maintained by the ASF or SpamAssassin. I think it would be a good idea to rename the DNSBL and the rule to make this clearer. Maybe we should encourage (or help) Bill Stern to pick a snappy name. :-)
Fair enough. I picked sa.surbl.org out of thin air since his rule started with "sa" and to give oblique credit to the original motivation for his rule, if not the precise source.
Bill, anyone, got some better names? I prefer two letters. (sa and sc were kind of confusing anyway.) "sb" for Sa-Blacklist anyone? LOL! ;-)
Also, it would be better from our perspective if we could get multiple RBL results from a single query to reduce overhead. Any of multiple A (like NJABL, SBL/XBL, or SORBS), bitmask A (like OPM or RBL+), or multiple TXT (like SBL/XBL) would probably not be too hard to support (Justin?).
We deliberately did not want to combine Bill's list and mine not so much due to not-invented-here syndrome but because their source data is so different, and because their size and time factors are pretty radically different at present. I gave some of the original reasons in the proposed announcement which I had not forwarded here yet, but will now.
P.S. If we can get some 3.0 developers on discuss@lists.surbl.org, perhaps we can take the talk there.
Carbon-coping spamassassin-dev@incubator.apache.org (which is public) for SpamAssassin issues (all versions) is probably the easiest way to get SpamAssassin developers involved in a discussion.
OK Cross-posting it is... :-| LOL!
Jeff C.
On Sunday, April 11, 2004, 12:59:57 AM, Jeff Chan wrote:
On Sunday, April 11, 2004, 12:29:43 AM, Daniel Quinlan wrote:
I have a concern about the rule. Bill Stern's SpamAssassin blacklist is a blacklist *for* SpamAssassin, so I think the naming of your rule and the DNSBL name (sa.surbl.org) are unintentionally a bit misleading since the list is not maintained by the ASF or SpamAssassin. I think it would be a good idea to rename the DNSBL and the rule to make this clearer. Maybe we should encourage (or help) Bill Stern to pick a snappy name. :-)
Fair enough. I picked sa.surbl.org out of thin air since his rule started with "sa" and to give oblique credit to the original motivation for his rule, if not the precise source.
Bill, anyone, got some better names? I prefer two letters. (sa and sc were kind of confusing anyway.) "sb" for Sa-Blacklist anyone? LOL! ;-)
BTW, Daniel is pretty influential among SA developers. If he suggests changing the name, we should probably change it. Right now I'm leaning towards sb, but am open to other suggestions.
Jeff C.
Good morning, all,
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004, Jeff Chan wrote:
On Sunday, April 11, 2004, 12:59:57 AM, Jeff Chan wrote:
On Sunday, April 11, 2004, 12:29:43 AM, Daniel Quinlan wrote:
I have a concern about the rule. Bill Stern's SpamAssassin blacklist is a blacklist *for* SpamAssassin, so I think the naming of your rule and the DNSBL name (sa.surbl.org) are unintentionally a bit misleading since the list is not maintained by the ASF or SpamAssassin. I think it would be a good idea to rename the DNSBL and the rule to make this clearer. Maybe we should encourage (or help) Bill Stern to pick a snappy name. :-)
Fair enough. I picked sa.surbl.org out of thin air since his rule started with "sa" and to give oblique credit to the original motivation for his rule, if not the precise source.
I picked sa-blacklist to give homage to the spamassassin developers too. Oh well.
Bill, anyone, got some better names? I prefer two letters. (sa and sc were kind of confusing anyway.) "sb" for Sa-Blacklist anyone? LOL! ;-)
The abbreviation isn't important. If Daniel wants if changed, then "ws" is fine with me. "sb" still sounds like a spamassassin blacklist - and I fear that's not far enough away from spamassassin. Cheers, - Bill
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