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RE: [SURBL-Discuss] Fwd: quickinspirations.com
by Chris Santerre 30 Sep '04

30 Sep '04

>-----Original Message----- >From: David Hooton [mailto:david.hooton@gmail.com] >Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 9:23 AM >To: Jeff Chan; SURBL Discussion list >Subject: Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Fwd: quickinspirations.com > > >On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:54:22 -0700, Jeff Chan <jeffc(a)surbl.org> wrote: >> This was the original report send to the whitelist(a)surbl.org >> address. Note that it included no examples, no explanation, no >> reasons, etc. >> >> That's why it's nice include some of those, eh? >> >> Jeff C. >> __ >> >> This is a forwarded message >> From: Bitz <bitoy(a)lawin.pinoy.org> >> To: whitelist(a)surbl.org >> Date: Friday, July 30, 2004, 5:17:43 PM >> Subject: quickinspirations.com >> >> ===8<==============Original message text=============== >> quickinspirations.com >> >> ===8<===========End of original message text=========== > >Perhaps people who request domains to be delisted but provide no >evidence should just be permanently lists? :p > LOL. Should we at least rethink this kind of domain? Some people are going to scream "Legit!" because they don't know they were fooled. I'm not asking for this domain to be changed right now. I'm asking more for people to start thinking about these kind of legit looking signup spams. Keep the seed in the back of your mind, as we may see more of this. --Chris

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Fwd: quickinspirations.com
by Jeff Chan 30 Sep '04

30 Sep '04

This was the original report send to the whitelist(a)surbl.org address. Note that it included no examples, no explanation, no reasons, etc. That's why it's nice include some of those, eh? Jeff C. __ This is a forwarded message From: Bitz <bitoy(a)lawin.pinoy.org> To: whitelist(a)surbl.org Date: Friday, July 30, 2004, 5:17:43 PM Subject: quickinspirations.com ===8<==============Original message text=============== quickinspirations.com ===8<===========End of original message text=========== -- Jeff Chan mailto:whitelist@surbl.org http://www.surbl.org/

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RE: [SURBL-Discuss] Help classify quickinspirations.com
by Patrik Nilsson 30 Sep '04

30 Sep '04

At 16:14 2004-09-29 -0400, Chris Santerre wrote: >Did you just create a new term? > >"Fisuf Spam" :-) >Works for me! I think I had a "discussion" about this domain with Jeff >before. Which is why I rang a bell. I think this may be one of the ones that >started the whole UC debate. > >Hmmm.... could more Fisuf Spam be around the corner? In my opinion - apparently (according to some definitions) legitimate emails that people have actually signed up for, that are obviously *only* sent out by known spammers to people tricked into entering their adress, or someone elses on a web site, that have *no* real purpose except to send spam - should be classified as spam, *not ham*. Even if people have signed up for the spam. Patrik

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OB FPs
by Alex Broens 30 Sep '04

30 Sep '04

While I always read how reliable OB should be, of the few WL requests I've triggered, all except 1 were from OB. These were pretty ugly ones indeed, an Adobe child site, a Genuine abused Webmail site, etc, etc. juts wondering.... Alex

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Please test: PailPolice fraud list, jp.surbl.org
by Jeff Chan 30 Sep '04

30 Sep '04

This is a request for folks to please test the MailPolice fraud list and jp.surbl.org: MailPolice Fraud list with SpamCopURI: uri MP_URI_RBL eval:check_spamcop_uri_rbl('fraud.rhs.mailpolice.com','127.0.0.2') describe MP_URI_RBL URI's domain appears in MailPolice fraud list tflags MP_URI_RBL net score MP_URI_RBL 3.0 And for SA 3.0 with the URIDNSBL plug-in: urirhsbl URIBL_MP fraud.rhs.mailpolice.com. A header URIBL_MP eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_MP') describe URIBL_MP URI's domain appears in MailPolice fraud list tflags URIBL_MP net score URIBL_MP 3.0 (Note that the above is a separate, external list, so it can't be used like multi.) JP SA 2.63 and 2.64 rule and score using SpamCopURI 0.22 or later: uri JP_URI_RBL eval:check_spamcop_uri_rbl('multi.surbl.org','127.0.0.0+64') describe JP_URI_RBL URI's domain appears in JP at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html tflags JP_URI_RBL net score JP_URI_RBL 4.0 JP SA 3.0 rule and score using URIBL's urirhssub: urirhssub URIBL_JP_SURBL multi.surbl.org. A 64 header URIBL_JP_SURBL eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_JP_SURBL') describe URIBL_JP_SURBL Contains a URL listed in JP at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html tflags URIBL_JP_SURBL net score URIBL_JP_SURBL 4.0 In particular we'd like to hear about any false positives on either list. If the MailPolice fraud data looks good, we'll add it to PH, but we need your help in testing it. You can test these on hand selected test corpora or live mail, but please try not to melt the MailPolice name servers. ;-) Please give these a try and let us know what you find. Note that you'll probably want to remove the MailPolice fraud list after testing as a separate list if we add it to PH. Jeff C. -- "If it appears in hams, then don't list it."

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RE: [SURBL-Discuss] FP in OB g4techtv .com
by Chris Santerre 30 Sep '04

30 Sep '04

>-----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Chan [mailto:jeffc@surbl.org] >Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 12:32 PM >To: SURBL Discuss >Subject: Re: [SURBL-Discuss] FP in OB g4techtv .com > > >On Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 9:15:56 AM, Chris Santerre wrote: >>>From: Jeff Chan [mailto:jeffc@surbl.org] > >>>On Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 7:58:16 AM, Chris Santerre wrote: >>>> 2.0 URIBL_OB_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the OB >>>SURBL blocklist >>>> [URIs: g4techtv .com] >>> >>>> Ahhhhhhh my game news!!!!!! >>> >>>> --Chris >>> >>>I heard they spam... ;-) >>> >>>Whitelist them with documentation. > >> But it is on OB list, I thought I could only whitelist for WS? > >The SURBL whitelist applies to all SURBLs. > >Jeff C. >-- Done deal. --Chris (I hold in my hand, the first Hot Chocolate of the season!)

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Re: [SURBL-Announce] ANNOUNCE: New JP list is now part of multi.surbl.org
by Mariano Absatz 30 Sep '04

30 Sep '04

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:24:00 -0700, Jeff Chan <jeffc(a)surbl.org> wrote: > JP is now active as part of multi. Please give it a try. We > think you'll like the results. :-) > __ > > http://www.surbl.org/quickstart.html > > jp - jwSpamSpy + Prolocation data source > > Joe Wein's jwSpamSpy program is used both by Joe's own systems > and also Raymond Dijkxhoorn and his colleagues at Prolocation to > process more than 300,000 likely spams per day. The resulting > list has a very good spam detection rate around 80% and a very > low false positive rate below 0.02%. This data is only available > in the combined list multi.surbl.org. > > An SA 2.63 and 2.64 rule and score using SpamCopURI 0.22 or later > looks like this: > > uri JP_URI_RBL eval:check_spamcop_uri_rbl('multi.surbl.org','127.0.0.0+64') > describe JP_URI_RBL URI's domain appears in JP at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html > tflags JP_URI_RBL net > > score JP_URI_RBL 4.0 > > An SA 3.0 rule and score using URIBL's urirhssub looks like this: > > urirhssub URIBL_JP_SURBL multi.surbl.org. A 64 > header URIBL_JP_SURBL eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_JP_SURBL') > describe URIBL_JP_SURBL Contains a URL listed in JP at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html > tflags URIBL_JP_SURBL net > > score URIBL_JP_SURBL 4.0 > __ > > Note that JP is not available as a separate list, only as part of > multi.surbl.org. Use it with urirhssub or SpamCopURI 0.22 as > described above. Please see the lists document mentioned in the > description for more information about JP. > If I understand this right, ws still has jp data, even within multi, is it? That is, if I want to score the rest of ws at 1.3 and jp at 4.0, I should set jp's score at 2.7, right? -- Mariano Absatz - El Baby el (dot) baby (AT) gmail (dot) com el (punto) baby (ARROBA:@) gmail (punto) com

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RE: [SURBL-Discuss] Spammer threatening to suesingle4y ou.net
by Tim A 29 Sep '04

29 Sep '04

Are there a SURBL clan in JO?? Where do I find them :) > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Santerre <csanterre(a)merchantsoverseas.com> > Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:04:43 -0400 > Subject: RE: [SPAM-TAG] [SURBL-Discuss] Spammer threatening to > suesingle4y ou.net > To: Jeff Chan <jeffc(a)surbl.org>, SURBL Discussion list <discuss(a)lists.surbl.org> > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Jeff Chan [mailto:jeffc@surbl.org] > >Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:45 AM > >To: SURBL Discuss > >Subject: Re: [SPAM-TAG] [SURBL-Discuss] Spammer threatening to > >suesingle4y ou.net > > > > > >On Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 6:43:09 AM, Chris Santerre wrote: > >> The only basis we still have is this guys word that he is > >legit. Are we > >> going to whitelist everyone who simply asks to be > >whitelisted? Yes or No? > > > >No. > > Oh, now your taking the fun out of arguing with you ;) > > Did you break your JO cd? DOn't see ya playing much. > > --Chris (I need cover fire on the bridge!!!) > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss(a)lists.surbl.org > http://lists.surbl.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >

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RE: [SURBL-Discuss] Help classify quickinspirations.com
by Chris Santerre 29 Sep '04

29 Sep '04

>-----Original Message----- >From: Patrik Nilsson [mailto:patrik@patrik.com] >Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 3:59 PM >To: SURBL Discussion list >Subject: Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Help classify quickinspirations.com > > >At 15:11 2004-09-29 -0400, Chris Santerre wrote: >>quickinspirations.com >>Thoughts on this guy? 48 NANAS hits. Listed in dnsbl.njabl.org > >As well as in: >http://spews.org/html/S1436.html > >>Didn't we already classify this? > >I can find a whitelisting email from Jeff, but not the original >whitelisting request. Seems to be lost in my archives. > >>I wonder if we can get a crossref lookup of >>the global whitelist, so we can see what has already been whitelisted. >> >>I belive this is a spammer in sheeps clothing. But it fools >people into >>signing up for a stupid inspiration newsletter. But the >subjects of the >>newsletter are stuff like: >>Subject: Get a Credit Report Instantly! >>Then a inspiration quote, then a big ad. I think we may see >more of this in >>the future. >>I think it is a UC candidate. Do we have enough listed in UC >for testing >>yet? > >I think it's a surbl candidate. >Why was it whitelisted? >Any actual examples of it showing up in real ham, rather than only in >"fooled into signing up for" spam? > Did you just create a new term? "Fisuf Spam" Works for me! I think I had a "discussion" about this domain with Jeff before. Which is why I rang a bell. I think this may be one of the ones that started the whole UC debate. Hmmm.... could more Fisuf Spam be around the corner? --Chris

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Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Help classify quickinspirations.com
by Patrik Nilsson 29 Sep '04

29 Sep '04

At 15:11 2004-09-29 -0400, Chris Santerre wrote: >quickinspirations.com >Thoughts on this guy? 48 NANAS hits. Listed in dnsbl.njabl.org As well as in: http://spews.org/html/S1436.html >Didn't we already classify this? I can find a whitelisting email from Jeff, but not the original whitelisting request. Seems to be lost in my archives. >I wonder if we can get a crossref lookup of >the global whitelist, so we can see what has already been whitelisted. > >I belive this is a spammer in sheeps clothing. But it fools people into >signing up for a stupid inspiration newsletter. But the subjects of the >newsletter are stuff like: >Subject: Get a Credit Report Instantly! >Then a inspiration quote, then a big ad. I think we may see more of this in >the future. >I think it is a UC candidate. Do we have enough listed in UC for testing >yet? I think it's a surbl candidate. Why was it whitelisted? Any actual examples of it showing up in real ham, rather than only in "fooled into signing up for" spam? Patrik

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