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Redirectors and SURBLs
by Jeff Chan 20 Apr '05

20 Apr '05

For SURBLs we're probably not going to blacklist the U.S. Congress, Google, Dell or Microsoft, so a better solution to their redirectors may be for you to make a good faith effort to contact them and let them know about the issue. Talking about the problem on SPAM-L probably won't do much, other than teaching spammers new things they can abuse, which probably doesn't help fight spam very much. By the way, being able to redirect to the SURBL website does not prove that a redirector is open, only that it can redirect to the SURBL website. A better test would be to see if it will redirect to a major spammer's site, for example any that are listed in multiple SURBLs. In case anyone new doesn't already know, here's a letter that may be useful for contacting operators of redirectors and educating them about the problem, and proposing a solution: http://www.surbl.org/redirect.html Please feel free to forward a copy or link to it when you contact the redirectors. And don't be shy about contacting them. Anyone who finds a redirector can help out by doing that. Cheers, Jeff C. -- "If it appears in hams, then don't list it."

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Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Testing: xs.surbl.org (CBL Data)
by David Coulson 20 Apr '05

20 Apr '05

Jeff Chan wrote: > IIRC you already have access to the rsync server where the zones > can be found, so if you'd like to give it a try and/or serve it > publically for testing, that would be wonderful! :-) It's loaded on all of my name servers. David -- David J. Coulson email: david(a)davidcoulson.net web: http://www.davidcoulson.net/ phone: (216) 920-3100 / (216) 258-4942

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RE: [SURBL-Discuss] Rsync access
by Bob Pierce 19 Apr '05

19 Apr '05

Raymond, >> I have sent 3 emails to raymond(a)prolocation.net and 2 web forms >> requesting access from our new server as we will be retiring our old >> server. I haven't heard any response back for the past month. > >You sended a rsync request, and a personal mail _TODAY_ ... just sit back >and relax. Eventualy we will handle the request. I don't believe I was out of order inquiring about this. I sent you emails on March 18th, April 6th, and then again this morning. I had not heard back from any of them, nor from the earlier web form I probably submitted on April 6th. Not knowing whether or not you were still responsible for this, I thought I should also post the question to the list. Thanks for looking after this for us, Bob.

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John Delisle/ho/Ceridian is out of the office.
by John_Delisle＠ceridian.ca 19 Apr '05

19 Apr '05

I will be out of the office starting 04/19/2005 and will not return until 04/20/2005. TESTING OUT OF OFFICE - I'm here..

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Rsync access
by Bob Pierce 19 Apr '05

19 Apr '05

How do I request a change in our rsync access? I have sent 3 emails to raymond(a)prolocation.net and 2 web forms requesting access from our new server as we will be retiring our old server. I haven't heard any response back for the past month. Is there a particular person I should be contacting other than Raymond? Is it possible to get an eta on this? We're needing access changed to a new ip since we are pulling the old server out of production and retiring the old address. Thanks for your help, Bob Pierce Systems Analyst Westman Communications Group pierceb(a)westmancom.com

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Stock Watch Alert
by Warren Robinson 19 Apr '05

19 Apr '05

Has anyone a rule to can these reports ! Regards warren

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tips how to make a safe redirector
by Alain 16 Apr '05

16 Apr '05

Hi After seen the various msg's about open redirect's, I did a search about "safe" http redirectors, but didn't find many resources. While it's not that difficult to make a safe one with a manual whitelist, it's not in all scripts (.asp,.pl,php) easy to make a script that uses SURBL to block spammers. Such a script would have the big advantage that it could be generic. Are there available on the net? Could be a nice idea to add some links to those resources from the "letter to redirectors sites" page. Alain

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Public Discussion List for URIBL.com
by Chris Santerre 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

For discussing the new lists, please use this one. http://lists.uribl.com/mailman/listinfo/uribl-discuss Per Jeff's request, please keep mainsleeze and open redirect discussions on this list and off the SURBL list. Thanks, --Chris

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Open redirect @ tweakers.net
by Nick Askew 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

Here is another one http://www.tweakers.net/ext/lt.dsp?ref=p&LeverancierID=5637&ID=103132517&de… Nick Protect your domain from use by spammers. Set up an SPF record, read more about it here http://spf.pobox.com/. Find a Better Way of Life at www.marillion.com

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RE: [SURBL-Discuss] RE: open redirect at US CONGRESS
by Chris Santerre 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

>-----Original Message----- >From: Alex Broens [mailto:surbl@alexb.ch] >Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 2:53 PM >To: SURBL Discussion list >Subject: Re: [SURBL-Discuss] RE: open redirect at US CONGRESS > > >Chris Santerre wrote: >> LOL. I'm adding them all to my post to Spam-L. Hopefully >that will wake a fe >> of them up before we have to add them to the gray list! > >Chris... > >Do you realize that you're giving out this info to spammers as well as >spamfighters? Yup. I have my reasons :) > >Shouldn't we just keep a low profile on this and possibly contact the >admins of as many as possible and hope for them fixing? Been there, tried that. Doesn't work. > >Although it would be nice to have these in rbldns zone, sorry, but the >havoc these inclusions would cause are not worth trouble. No comment ;) > >Bayes, SA and SARE rules will take care of most cases without the need >of driving eachother nuts. Think open mail relays. Unless you block, no one will fix. Gmail doesn't run and open relay, because it would be blocked. The logic for open redirs is no different. --Chris

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